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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
A Saudi protectorate for Palestine?
2007-02-13

Meshaal, Haniyeh, and Abbas prepare to take part in a ritual homosexual orgy in the Great Steambath of Mecca.
It is still too early to judge whether the Mecca Agreement between Fatah and Hamas will stop members of the various Palestinian militias in Gaza killing each other; it is equally questionable whether the convoluted language of the agreement lives up even to the minimal standards the international community has put forth as a condition for renewing aid to the Palestinian Authority.
I'm guessing the language is intentionally convoluted, lending itself to as many varying interpretations as possible and as close to being a semantic null as it's possible to get without leaving nothing but spaces between all the periods and commas.
What is, however, beyond doubt is that the various Palestinian factions, each commanding numerous armed militias and security services, have totally failed to work out a political system based on ballots, not bullets. The January 2006 Palestinian elections only proved that neither the minority, nor the majority, knew how to function within the rules of representative government. Only an outside player - the Saudis - with their standing and lucre were able to achieve what negotiations, not shootings, lynchings and killings, are supposed to achieve in any orderly society.
Strictly until the money runs out again. Then it's back to square zero.
This raises anew the question of how far Palestinian society is able to carry out nation-building under the difficult conditions in which it creates for finds itself. Some of these difficulties are undoubtedly a consequence of Israeli occupation. But many have to do with the structure of Palestinian society itself, lacking the basic ingredients of tolerance, legitimized pluralism and the understanding that differences are not to be decided by force and coercion. That the major achievement of the Palestinian Authority under Yasser Arafat was, rather than social reconstruction, the establishment of a dozen security services testifies to this structural failure.
Depends on what one wishes the structure to produce. The Paleo pathologies were not created for a peaceful, stable society. They were created as weaponised paranoia, designed to be the knife held to the throat of the West. And they would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling Neocons.
The idea has merit, if for only one reason: the Paleos are going to riot and bomb and do their Paleo thing no matter *who* is paying the bills; I'd prefer they be spending ol' Ibn-Saud's inheritance than my tax dollars.
The time has perhaps come to consider that the Palestinians may need a guiding hand, able to lead them in what they have until now totally failed: nation-building. Some Jordanian statesmen recently expressed in private the idea that perhaps the Hashemites could now somehow come back and provide such guidance. Egypt has already played an important, though only partially successful role, in negotiating a cease-fire of sorts between Israel and some Palestinian militias in Gaza. The Saudis have now proven that maybe they are the addressee. The Mecca Agreement is at the moment a mere piece of paper; it will be tested in its implementation. It may not be unkind to suggest that once President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh return to their respective headquarters, the bickering - and perhaps shooting - will resume. In any case, it would be helpful if a robust Saudi presence, perhaps helped by Egypt, could be established in Gaza.
It would be more helpful if they weren't attempting to do this with actual Paleos.
The Palestinians need help to help themselves.
Just ask Allan.
At the moment the idea that the dozens of Palestinian security services, militias and clan gangs - all thuggish and armed to the teeth - can become a basis for a more or less functioning body politic is totally unrealistic. The Palestinians need a transition period in which a higher authority will guide them toward nation-building and state-formation.
Someone like...Prince Nayef!
This cannot be done by the EU or the UN. Only a legitimate Arab regime, one with enough power and money, can do it - and the Saudis may be the best candidate for the role, especially as it may also fit into their own overall view of trying to destabilize the region. In other words, and without beating around the bush: the Palestinians have to come out from under Israeli occupation, but they are unable to create the infrastructure that will give their political entity the necessary stability. A Saudi protectorate could be the way out of this conundrum, and the notion should be seriously addressed by all concerned.
Plus the entertainment value when the Paleos turn their seething on the Soddies when the well runs dry...
Posted by:Fred

#9  ...You know, I always liked the Clancy Plan from the book The Sum Of All Fears - send in the Swiss Guard.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2007-02-13 20:47  

#8  Sure, the Saudis could send aid that wasn't to kill Israelis, but that doesn't fit into their jihad mindset very well.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-02-13 18:22  

#7  #2 'moose: "On top of that, the EU is in on the deal, because once the Saudis are in charge, they can send aid to the territories without it immediately being used to kill Israelis."

Gee, that's a huge downside for the EU - but maybe they'll go along with the plan anyway.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2007-02-13 18:16  

#6  Rev. Thomas (Malthus). The entire MME has, about, 3 times the population it can support without petro$ (or "stabilization" western handouts).
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-02-13 18:02  

#5  Who would take out Egypt and Jordon? The US could but currently they are still in the official "allies" column.

Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-02-13 17:58  

#4  rjschwarz, you're assuming that Egypt & Jordan are long for this world.
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-02-13 17:24  

#3  Egypt and Jordan should take over Gaza and the West Bank respectively. As administrative districts or sucked back into their nations entirely. The Saudi's should pay with cash, because they have cash, so they can be a big player.

The Arabs could beat down the Palestinian gangs in a way a Western military could never get away with. They could get rid of the refugee camps and constant conflict and allow people to get on with their lives to some extent.

It won't happen because it's too useful a tool to beat Israel with.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-02-13 12:49  

#2  Something major is going on diplomatically. I suspect that Condi Rice is behind it.

First of all, the Saudis are taking the helm and directing all of the Paleos in the territories, which they are willing to do to push out Iran. The US does not mind having Iran pushed back north.

Second, I suspect that other Sunni governments, especially Jordan and Egypt, are joining the Sunni bandwagon. With all three invested, this will seriously moderate the actions of the Paleos.

On top of that, the EU is in on the deal, because once the Saudis are in charge, they can send aid to the territories without it immediately being used to kill Israelis.

The only person who could have assembled such a plan is Condi Rice. This explains why the US is so quiet and in the background on the deal.

The wild cards are Lebanon, Syria and Iran. I find it hard to believe that Iran, especially, would sit back and let this deal happen without seriously trying to upset the apple cart.

This would mean Syrian intelligence assassinating a lot of Paleo leaders, infiltrating a lot of Hezbollah into the territories, and trying to create a lot of trouble. Why they haven't done this I have no idea.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-02-13 09:53  

#1  SHLOMO AVINERI is one of Israel's leading moonbats (and our moonbats are the best in the World).
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-02-13 00:16  

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