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Israel must come up with peace offer: Arab League chief
2007-03-21
Arab League chief Amr Mussa on Tuesday said an Arab summit later this month expects Israel to make a serious offer on peace instead of resorting to “tricks” to waste time. “We expect an offer, a position from Israel in so far as peace is concerned,” Mussa told reporters in Amman following talks with Jordanian Foreign Minister Abdel Ilah Khatib on the March 28-29 summit in Saudi Arabia. “We fail to see any offer, any talk about serious peace,” the secretary general said ahead of a meeting with King Abdullah II as part of a regional tour to prepare for the summit. “What we see is the same old policy of building Jewish settlements, of procrastination, of resorting to tricks one after the other in order to waste time,” Mussa said. Mussa reiterated the Arabs’ refusal to amend a Saudi peace initiative first launched at a 2002 summit in Beirut and which leaders hope to revive when they meet in Riyadh.
Posted by:Fred

#17  True, Seafarious, but that came later. I've noticed that for almost all my friends and relatives in mixed-religion marriages, it's the wife's religion that the children end up with... at least until they're old enough to make their own decisions on such matters. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-03-21 22:10  

#16  I always thought that Judaism follows the matriarch 'cos you always know who the mother is...
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-03-21 20:42  

#15  heh heh
Posted by: Frank G   2007-03-21 20:04  

#14  Looser than what?

/channeling Frank G

ImA advise immediate intervention.
Posted by: FlyAshLiberationArmy   2007-03-21 19:23  

#13  Looser than what?

/channeling Frank G
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-03-21 17:32  

#12  Why MUST Israel?

Must is just one of those weird looser words.
Posted by: 3dc   2007-03-21 16:31  

#11  israel may yet make a counter-offer. They want to keep the Saudi process going, and continue to strengthen their ties with Sunni states that fear Iran.

This isnt a good time for such counter offer, as the Olmert govt is too weak.

Also one doesnt want to look like one is rewarding the Saudis for the Mecca agreement, which fell short of the Road Map requirements.

And unfortunately the Israeli response will be judged much more severely for its realism, than was the initial Saudi proposal, which was praised simply for Saudi making a halfway serious peace proposal.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-03-21 16:30  

#10  JFM, you are a gentleman and a scholar; your posts make that very clear. And it is hard, when snot-nosed little Saudi boys just discovering the internet come to Rantburg and boast about raping American wives, then having the husbands clean their servant's toilets. Clearly their parents never taught them the duties of a guest toward his host... and they haven't the intelligence to realize that without American technical expertise the Saudi super-cool airforce will sit useless in the hangers. You've mostly missed them, because of the time difference.

On the other hand, if we think of it as rescuing the girls from life-long torment...
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-03-21 12:54  

#9  I know TW, #5 doesn't play with decent people and believe it or not I am decent.

It was to be read tongue in cheek even if I fantasize about inflicting this supreme slap to those who consider themselves superior due to being Muslims and Arabs.

Context: I have no French blood, every branch of my family ends tracing bcak to Spain. So I take it a bit personal when I read the Muslim chronicle of the invasion of Spain and I see him boasting that "thirty thousand women of great beauty were shared as booty by the invaders". The beauty of slaves doesn't matter when you want them only for cleaning the house...

Not that present day Muslim girls should pay for the crimes of their ancestors.


Posted by: JFM   2007-03-21 11:59  

#8  I like your plan, JFM, except for #5. Back in the Bible days when they were still just Israelites they figured out that children tend to follow the religion of the mother, even in a patriarchy; if one wants Jewish children, one had better marry a nice Jewish girl who was either born that way or converted. (Recall, King David's grandmother was a convert to Judaism -- a lesson to us all not to be religion snobs just as the slaves in Egypt thingy is a lesson not to be ancestor snobs.) ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-03-21 11:38  

#7  I agree. Here is what Israel should be sending as proposal.


Arabs agree to:

1) Keep the Palestinans and not allow any within a minimum of 300 miles from Israel

2) Compensate Isreal for Arab agressions and terrorism since 1948

3) Indemnify the Jews expelled from Arab countries (many had been living there since before the Romans). Indemnify their realatives for those who sere murdered.

4) Indemnify for centuries of dhimmitude and apologize for it.

5) Send a yearly tribute of 10,000 virgins to Israel (cf note). Isrealis get to choose of course.

On its side Israel agree:

1) Not to nuke their sorry asses.


Note: For centuries Muslims have rapted and enslaved dhimmi women, child and teenagers (both sexes). As a secondary effect it contributed to increase the number of Muslims respective to non-Muslims.
Posted by: JFM   2007-03-21 11:15  

#6  "Call for Mr. Corleone... Mr. Michael Corleone, to the white courtesy phone..."
Posted by: mojo   2007-03-21 10:56  

#5  Any Israeli peace plan should start with.....

"And all Paleos living outside of the West Bank & Gaza are granted citizenship in the country in which they reside retro-active to 1/1/07."

Use that as the starting point and watch the turbans twist.
Posted by: AlanC   2007-03-21 08:27  

#4  I suggest Israel make them a peace offer they can't refuse. Of course, the Israelis will have to change governments first. No one is going to mistake that bonehead Olmert for Don Corleone. Bibi, on the other hand, might just have the makings....
Posted by: Mac   2007-03-21 07:39  

#3  And lets hope that this time around its the kind of peace offer Arabs can understand.
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-03-21 07:15  

#2  Well, my way would be peace through superior firepower. Who could resist? ;-)
Posted by: twobyfour   2007-03-21 01:27  

#1  They want Israel to sign a surrender doc in the first IDF jets that destroyed Arab airfields back in '67, or the first IDF tank that crossed the Nile into Egypt back in 1973, ala HITLER + INFAM PARIS PEACE TRAIN???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-03-21 00:56  

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