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Home Front: Politix
California proposal: Get health insurance or pay fine
2007-04-14
Three thoughts before you read this article -
1. This is prolly designed to soften up the electorate to accept Government-provided 'universal' Hillarycare
2. I'd check the Kennedy family connexions to insurance and insurance 'consulting' companies
3. Prepare to be horrified. I was.
People who refuse to obtain health insurance could be tracked down by the state or a private contractor, enrolled in a plan and fined until they pay their premiums under one proposal Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's administration is considering as part of his vision for covering all Californians.
How very... Teutonic.
The proposal, which administration aides said was one of many the governor was considering, was presented at a meeting Tuesday with representatives from insurers, hospitals, doctors, business groups and consumer advocates. It drew immediate criticism from critics of the central tenet of Schwarzenegger's healthcare approach, which is to require all Californians to obtain insurance. Although the governor's office has been emphasizing the efforts it would make to help people find insurance voluntarily — including subsidies to the poor and outreach through schools, state agencies and healthcare providers — the outlines of the enforcement proposal inflamed some of those the administration has been courting for support. Beth Capell, a lobbyist for the Service Employees International Union's California organization,
Nice work, LA Times...the first quote out of the box is from a union hack.
said the fines might be unfairly levied on people caught without health insurance because of circumstances beyond their control. Those included people in between jobs and those starting employment in companies that did not provide healthcare for the first months of work. "We're going to punish them if they don't go out and buy health insurance on their own — health insurance that they can't afford at the moment that they are least able to afford it," Capell said.

Other proposals, which Schwarzenegger included in the first draft of his healthcare plan, are to attach the wages of people who don't buy insurance and to increase the amount they owe in state income taxes.
Oh. My. Gawd.
Kim Belshé, secretary of the state Health and Human Services Agency, emphasized that "nothing is set in stone." But Schwarzenegger's call for "shared responsibility" includes a need for everyone to be part of the insurance system, she said.
"We wouldn't like to look anti-social, now would we?" she chirped, slowly drawing on latex gloves and reaching for the tray with the hypodermic needle...
The proposal to locate people without insurance would use state or private databases and target those who lacked coverage for 60 days or more. The administration said the goal was to be helpful and the initial notification would be designed to alert people to the need for insurance and provide ways for them to find coverage.

Only those who still did not obtain insurance would be subject to involuntary measures.
Boggle. Boggle. Boggle.
"It represents one approach to enforcement," Belshé said of the proposal. "But I want to underscore the emphasis of the governor and the administration is on enrollment, and creating a culture of coverage that connects people to affordable, available health coverage."
A "culture of coverage." I think I'm gonna be ill, but I better check with my minder first...
With more than 6 million residents lacking medical coverage in California, the requirement to obtain health insurance is one of the most contentious points of Schwarzenegger's plan. Schwarzenegger wants to offer public subsidies to the least affluent Californians. But many Democratic legislators, unions and consumer advocates have objected that others will not be able to afford even the bare-bones, high-deductible plans that Schwarzenegger would require as a minimum, which cost $1,200 a person a year. Those plans would include deductibles as high as $5,000 on top of the premiums, and would be geared toward protecting people from the costs of catastrophic medical bills, such as those arising from surgery or cancer treatment.

Peter Harbage, a senior program associate with the nonpartisan think tank the New America Foundation, said relatively few people would have to be forced to buy insurance. Schwarzenegger has cited the foundation's research in helping to frame his plan. "Most people are going to have insurance if the program is well designed and well constructed," he said in an interview Tuesday.
"A dream that will take
All the dough you must give
Ev'ry day of your life
For as long as you live!"
"And then you're going to have some people who are bad actors, and that's where you need some sort of tracking system."
"Bad actor! Youse didn't pay your protection money buy health insurance! It's too bad, nice place youse got here."
The governor said he is studying as a possible model a new system the state Department of Motor Vehicles is using to locate drivers who lack automobile insurance. Another model, he said, is the one the state uses to track down people who don't pay child support. "There's no easy way to come up with a tracking model," he said. "It's going to take some thought and it's going to be complex."
Somehow the question of requiring 'undocumented immigrants' to register for health insurance is not addressed in this article.
Posted by:Seafarious

#13  IN Arizona, the legislature raised once again the penalties for DUI. I see this all as increased taxation...the states just want more dough from us...AUH2O is turning in his grave...
Posted by: borgboy2001   2007-04-14 22:48  

#12  This of course won't apply to illegals, immigrants of any kind, minorities, rich, super rich , or mega rich people.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2007-04-14 19:13  

#11  People who refuse to obtain health insurance could be tracked down by the state or a private contractor, enrolled in a plan and fined until they pay their premiums

So how are they going to stick it to the illegals who have already shut down emergency rooms in areas in Kalifornia by entitlements? This implies a duel system, one in which citizens are hammered but illegals are not?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-04-14 14:21  

#10  Remeber when people actually believed Arnie was a Pub. Bwaahaaha!
Posted by: DepotGuy   2007-04-14 11:54  

#9  So what happens if one is rich enough to pay for healthcare without having to buy insurance? This is a horribly bad idea. Helmuth, the Tenncare program failed because of mismanagement and letting everyone and his brother qualify. Tenncare would even pay for "Healthclub" memberships under the guise of physical therapy.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2007-04-14 10:22  

#8  It does work with auto-insurance tho? Then again I guess you can't choose not to live. I dunno, better than HilKare
Posted by: Shipman   2007-04-14 10:07  

#7  I guess this means that California's net population outflow will start to accelerate, thereby dramatically increasing the affordability of housing there, which is already in the process of crashing.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2007-04-14 09:27  

#6  "What is it about politics that now it is only about confiscation and constrictions?"

It's envy, greed, and a malicious desire to fuck people over. In other words, liberalism.

"Can we not agree that government is far too big for our own good?"

You and I do, but the average bovine citizen wants to live in perpetual childhood, with government as a substitute Mommy.

"If we allow government to grow as it has and to add constriction upon constriction and to confiscate when a mandate is not followed, we the people will have nothing left, not even our very freedom."

Remember what Janis Joplin said: "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose". They're just trying to set us free, that's all.

Posted by: Dave D.   2007-04-14 09:18  

#5  Won't.Happen.
Posted by: Frank G   2007-04-14 08:59  

#4  Very ugly program.

What is it about politics that now it is only about confiscation and constrictions. Can we not agree that government is far too big for our own good? If we allow government to grow as it has and to add constriction upon constriction and to confiscate when a mandate is not followed, we the people will have nothing left, not even our very freedom.
Posted by: badanov   2007-04-14 08:10  

#3  ...and to increase the amount they owe in state income taxes.

No surprise there - that's what Mass. is going to do starting 7/1/07.
Posted by: Raj   2007-04-14 08:09  

#2  This is almost...British in its dystopian look and feel.

I wonder how this will compare with the late, unlamented Tenncare(tm) experiment. Tennscare lasted 10 years before fiscal reality set in, and was cancelled.
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for N guard   2007-04-14 00:14  

#1  "Undocumented immigrants" > So California will need to raise Public Taxation in order for State and local Gubmints to continue to provide Public Assistance for illegal immigrants whom haven't even applied NOR WILL APPLY for any type of legal status???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-04-14 00:14  

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