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China-Japan-Koreas
Japan considering buying US stealth fighters
2007-04-23
JapanÂ’s defence ministry is considering US F-22A stealth fighters and F-15FX fighters as replacements for some of its ageing fighter jets, Kyodo news agency reported on Sunday quoting sources close to the matter. The ministry was unavailable for comment, but an official said last month that it was examining options as it plans to start replacing its fleet of 60 F-4 fighters as training aircraft in the next couple of years. A US Congress ban on exports of its most advanced and most expensive fighter jet, the F-22A Raptor built by Lockheed Martin and Boeing, had raised the possibility that Japan would seek other options, including European jets. But Kyodo said Japanese defence officials believe the ban will be lifted in the future. Quoting sources, Kyodo said Japan was considering buying the F-15FX first and then buying the F-22A after the export ban is lifted. Japan and the United States have agreed to step up cooperation between their armed forces in the face of rising regional tensions after North KoreaÂ’s nuclear and missile tests last year.
Posted by:Fred

#14  Japanese and sub secrets. According to Wikipedia:

In 1987, the company was accused of illegally selling CNC milling machines used to produce very quiet submarine propellers to the Soviet Union in violation of the CoCom agreement. The Toshiba-Kongsberg scandal involved a subsidiary of Toshiba and the Norwegian company Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk. The incident put a strain on relations between the United States and Japan and resulted in the arrest and prosecution of two senior executives, as well as the imposition of sanctions on the company by both countries.

Toshiba moved into selling internal parts (harddrives, etc) and eventually nearly everyone forgot.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-04-23 18:04  

#13  "I recall they gave away the technology to mill super-quiet sub propellers to the Russians back in the 80's or so."

If I remember right, the responsible individuals were Russian agents. Angleton thought they penetration started with a group of Japanese held in POW camps after the Soviets declared war in 1945. In the camps, they were recruited or otherwise profiled for blackmail purposes.
Posted by: Greatch Snolusing6399   2007-04-23 15:24  

#12  We were in Hong Kong in 1992 and was watching some news program in English. I remember the newsreader saying that since WWII the Japanese grew I think it was 7". Could have been 4", it's been awhile, the brain's getting kind of hazy.

Micky D's and beds.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2007-04-23 10:47  

#11  We will happily sell them the F-35.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-04-23 09:52  

#10  anonymous2U, amazing what adding a little protein to the diet will do for heighth, isn't it. Haven't been to Japan in a while, but in Korea, each of the last several generations has been significantly taller than their parents.
Posted by: RWV   2007-04-23 09:25  

#9  That is all ok but who says the United States is considering selling stealth fighters?

If wishes were horses....

Posted by: John Frum   2007-04-23 06:35  

#8  Pro-CHINA/CPC Netters are and have been displaying PS'ed future/new world order Maps where JAPAN + PARTS OR ALL OF EAST ASIA is ascribed as PART OF CHINA = UNDER CHINA'S SPHERE OF CONTROL/INFLUENCE. Saw one just today that had all of JAPAN + SK + VIETNAM + INDIA, etal. INCLUDING HAWAII-ALASKA; plus another that had ALL OF JAPAN + SK, etc but only 1/2 of THE PHILIPPINES [Northern PI only - read SUBIC BAY, MANILA BAY, MANILA AIRPORT, former CLARK AFB, etc.].

OTOH, BILL RICHARDSON > NORTH KOREA desires to be a FUTURE NEW ALLY OF USA. As said times before, the Norkies know they have no manifest destiny except to be controlled or destroyed by China, OR to be destroyed by the USA-Allies for China. IRONY > in order to counter Chin-Chicom desired Asia-Pacific hegemony = domination, IT MAY JUST BE IN DUBYA'S-USA's-WEST'S LT INTERESTS FOR NK TO DEV ITS OWN NUKES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-04-23 02:27  

#7  I remember when they wouldn't buy any of our ships because the bunks were too big, they were smaller people.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2007-04-23 02:20  

#6  Sorry 3dc, I couldn't see that, the "Stealth Fighter" is 'All American'; I can't see any other country when gazing at it's beauty. It needs to be retired and "Hung Up In The Rafters" sort of speak, like great football or baseball jerseys. Put it in the museum with the Wright brother's plane, the SR71 and others, and tell people to just...move along!!
Posted by: smn   2007-04-23 01:48  

#5  The F-117 Stealth fighter is being phased out. Sell them that.
Posted by: 3dc   2007-04-23 01:37  

#4  The Japanese have generally required co-production deals that gave US technology to them for free. I think (1) we're not parting with it for another 15 years and (2) a co-production deal is out of the question. If we're not selling it to either the Brits or the Australians, we're certainly not selling it to the Japanese.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2007-04-23 01:27  

#3  gorb...it was Toshiba.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-04-23 01:23  

#2  "Japan considering buying US stealth fighters"

That ought to get some collective Chinese shorts in a bunch.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2007-04-23 00:23  

#1  I recall they gave away the technology to mill super-quiet sub propellers to the Russians back in the 80's or so. And it seems to me they have sold other stuff for pennies on the dollar a few other times, too.
Posted by: gorb   2007-04-23 00:13  

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