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| Dupe entry: Tehran insider tells of US black ops |
| 2007-04-29 |
| Notic this is from INSIDE Iran. From Asia Times, not the most unbiased sources. EFL, so go read it all. TEHRAN - A former Iranian ambassador and Islamic Republic insider has provided intriguing details to Asia Times Online about US covert operations inside Iran aimed at destabilizing the country and toppling the regime - or preparing for an American attack. "The Iranian government knows and is aware of such infiltration. It means that the Iranian government has identified them [the covert operatives] but for some reason does not want to show [this]," said the former diplomat on condition of anonymity. Yeah, right. They know the US has Ops ongoing, but they don't want to believe it. Veteran US Which had no sources, nor basis in facts, and has been proven wrong by events. "The Iranian accusations are true," said Richard Sale, intelligence correspondent for United Press International, referring to charges that the US is using the Mujahideen-e Khalq (MEK) organization and other groups to carry out cross-border operations. "But it is being done on such a small scale - a series of pinpricks - it would seem to have no strategic value at all." There has been a marked spike in unrest in Kurdistan, Khuzestan and Balochistan, three of Iran's provinces with a high concentration of ethnic Kurdish, Arab and Balochi minorities respectively. With the exception of the immediate post-revolutionary period, when the Kurds rebelled against the central government and were suppressed violently, ethnic minorities have received better treatment, more autonomy and less ethnic discrimination than under the shah. I call BULLSHIT! on that But that is contrary to what Hersh was told by his sources, According to him, US combat troops are already inside Iran and, in the event of air strikes, would be in position to mark critical targets with laser beams to ensure bombing accuracy and excite sectarian tensions between the population and the central government. As of early winter, Hersh's source claims that the units were also working with minority groups in Iran, including the Azeris in the north, the Balochis in the southeast, and the Kurds in the northwest. On April 9, Iran claimed to have shot down an unmanned surveillance plane in the southwestern province of Khuzestan, according to a report in the semi-official Jumhuri Eslami newspaper. US media have also reported that the US military has been secretly flying surveillance drones over Iran since 2004, using radar, video, still photography and air filters to monitor Iranian military formations and track Iran's air-defense system. The US denied having lost a drone. If they had shot down a US drone, where are the pics? This new mission for the combat troops is a product of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's long-standing interest in expanding the role of the military in covert operations, which was made official policy in the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, published in February. Such activities, if conducted by CIA operatives, would need a Presidential Finding and would have to be reported to key members of Congress. Is the Algeria-based Halliburton Tsumani/Earthquake Division covered by these rules? I thought not. The confirmation that the US is carrying out covert activities inside Iran makes more sense out of a series of suspicious events that have occurred along Iran's borders this year. In early January, a military airplane belonging to Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards went down close to the Iraqi border. The plane was carrying 11 of the Guard's top commanders, including General Ahmad Kazemi, the commander of the IRGC's ground forces, and Brigadier-General Nabiollah Shahmoradi, who was deputy commander for intelligence. Sa-weeeet! Although a spokesman blamed bad weather and dilapidated engines for the crash, the private intelligence company Stratfor noted that there are several reasons to suspect foul play, not least of which was that any aircraft carrying so many of Iran's elite military luminaries would undergo "thorough tests for technical issues before flight". Later, Iran's defense minister accused Britain and the US of bringing the plane down through "electronic jamming". Islamo-bungled, I'd say. Or a hit. "Given all intelligence information that we have gathered, we can say that agents of the United States, Britain and Israel are seeking to destabilize Iran through a coordinated plan," Minister of Interior Mustafa Pour-Mohammadi said. This sentiment was echoed on websites such as AmericanIntelligence.us, where one reader commented, "We couldn't have made a better hit on the IRGC's leadership if planned ... sure it was just an accident?" Deep, DEEP Zionist plot, I tell you! Then, in late January, a previously unknown Sunni Muslim group called Jundallah (Soldier of Allah) captured nine Iranian soldiers in the remote badlands of Sistan-Balochistan province that borders Afghanistan and Pakistan. And in mid-February, another airplane crashed just inside Iraq after taking off from Azerbaijan and transiting Iranian airspace. The Iranian Mehr news agency reported that the "passengers on board were possibly of Israeli origin Super-Duper deeply-laid plot! Are you sure they were Germans? The former Iranian ambassador argues that in the event that US pressure on Iran continues, "the end of the tunnel" for President Mahmud Ahmadinejad's administration is "weaponization of the [nuclear] technology ... and a military strike". "The Americans are pushing Iran to become a nuclear state. Iran just wants to be a supplier of nuclear fuel. But [with their threats] they are pushing it further." LOLOL! The US is pushing for Iran to process nuke fuel? Bite me. |
| Posted by:Brett |
| #11 How would you set up a Black Op inside Iran? How big would you make it and how would you set the priorities of its activities? How many men would you use and who would they be? Who would decide on their agenda, finance them, control them and monitor them for their effects? Who would be their leaders? Who in the Intelligence world and the Department of Defense would be their masters? Rumsfeld is gone. This Black Op thing would have had to be designed and initiated DURING Rumsfelds term. If it is in place now, it would have to be under someone who was a close ( very close ) associate of Rumsfeld. It would not be a matter passed off to someone else to supervise. Gates will have to know about it technically, but he may also be outside the loop of a deep Black. When Bush went to Pakistan this Op would already have been in existence for two years. All covers would have been set in motion a year prior to that. This would definitely be a Rumsfeld project. But it would now be run by someone who was his intimate. The men inside this Black Op would have to be other than Special Forces. They would have to be "hired" and subject to being "denied" if any of them were taken. They would have to be compartmentalized, one part not being able to betray another part. The only way that is possible is an outside controller and each compartment inside Iran unable to pinpoint another. The Outside control would have to have a means of communication dependable and unbreakable for all compartments within Iran. There would have to be several separate compartments each independent but each controlled from outside by a single source for co-ordination. And the Controller would have to be beyond reach by the politicization of the Dept. of Defense and of CIA. Neither can be relied upon not to drop the project at the first sign of a career threat or something subject to the winds of the Beltway moment. No Tenet( big huggy Tenet ) could have run such a Black Op. Rumsfeld could have intiated such an Op but he will no longer be able to direct it..it has to be an intimate of his, someone with a team that can draw on resources but which will not be obvious to other Intell organs in the Dept. of Defense. The Black Op may have needed to be created from professionals in the trade, but not in the US military or Dept. of Defense. Retired people and private firms in Intell with old hand people to train and lead. Hand picked people who are into the work for a profit and arent squeamish. Nasty people with training and adjustable conscience. Why would it be assumed that such a Black Op would be actively engaged in sabotage inside Iran although such things may be tempting, they are not as necessary for a successful program which would be to move men all across Iran to search out targets, monitor them and be ready to pinpoint them for external strike, and then later for damage assessments.A Black Op for real use would have to be without ripples. Setting up Heroin distribution, infiltrating Ethhnic orgs, acquiring safe houses and establishing safe routes and means of communication, bringing in guns and moving them ,creating an "environment" which is anonymous and secure... recruiting local agents. Sabotage is flashy but why do that when you want to be inside with no ripples? Ethnics could be agitated, infiltrated, and armed. that would be one priority. But the agitation would have to be timed and timely. And weapons would have to be brought in to Iran and distributed quietly and unobtrusively...without loud noises. The introduction of Heroin would be lucrative and provide both an income for Ops as well as a facilitative organization which would double for Communications. Afghan Poppies could be gathered using Taliban as resource and the finances would allow infiltration of the taliban. Where money goes so do people. Money and its flow corrupts the security of those who move the money. You can buy your way into the Taliban by assisting them to make money. You can "hire" all sorts of people who do not know who they ACTUALLY work for as long as the money is good. So guns and dope are facilitators for infiltration, leading to control and agitation, and PROFIT...which can hire and fire those that serve the Black Op agenda. The US military does not need to be involved in any way with the Black Op at all. Intell can be passed to military and the Black Op is not seen as a part of such information. Intell is simply data, it has no face. And it doesnt need to point at the supplier. Azeris will be vulnerable to having their needs exploited. As will the Kurds and the Baluchis. Each ethnic area would require a separate compartment. And that compartment would be kept separate from all other compartments organizationally but not from Control. A Presidential "Finding" applies only to Ops which are US projects. If the Op is truly Black it is hired and run by a private individual who works directly for a man who knows Rumsfeld but no one could say who that man is or how he could possibly be hands on to the Op. Rumsfeld would put ice in his drink and nod and no words need be exchanged. Policy and direction can be faceless. The depth of the Black would be a private individual who had a couple of layers between himself and the nod by Rumsfeld to the man with the drink getting the ice. Secrecy is a look and a nod...not a word being spoken. It is a meeting of minds and access to resources. You can buy the rest. Mossad would be in on the Op and so would other Intell agencies but what each needed to make the co-operation possible need not have anything to do with how the Op is handled or controlled. It would use other agency resources in return for agreed upon inside Intell or for specific data, but the control would not share control of the Op, just pay for resources with Intell from the Op. Bush would have to know. But Cheney would control how much he knew. The use of the Op would ultimately be a private matter with no paper trail..and Cheney would be in it for the profit as well as the Intell. It would all be provisonal upon the basic premise that there would actually be a war. It would have to be before Bush goes home to texas. Otherwise it doesnt exist or have a reason for existing. |
| Posted by: Angleton 9 2007-04-29 22:21 |
| #10 Hear, hear Mr.(?) Guelph. Well said. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2007-04-29 22:04 |
| #9 "Given all intelligence information that we have gathered, we can say that agents of the United States, Britain and Israel are seeking to destabilize Iran through a coordinated plan," Hey - I've got some of that intelligence too! I started with Chaucer, then went through Shakespeare to Dickens, and having established the language for freedom, added some doses of Locke and Rousseau to get to the founding fathers. They looked back to original sources (I suppose what this student considers "Israel") and built from there. A dash of Lincoln, some drops of Grant, Lee and Sherman, a dollop of Churchill, and spread to taste - it's a "coordinated plan" alright, and if it weren't freely available to all, it would be a conspiracy too! At least I think that's what he means. |
| Posted by: Unomomble Guelph4369 2007-04-29 21:04 |
| #8 I tend to believe Hersch was purely guessing...and I also believe there are special ops folks there in several places. |
| Posted by: JustAboutEnough 2007-04-29 19:24 |
| #7 "it's a slam dunk" George Tenet |
| Posted by: doc 2007-04-29 18:37 |
| #6 Which had no sources, nor basis in facts, and has been proven wrong by events. Aside from that, the article was spot-on. Certainly good enough for most of the MSM and all moonbats. |
| Posted by: xbalanke 2007-04-29 18:35 |
| #5 If they had shot down a US drone, where are the pics? I would hope we're smart enough to put a grenade or two inside our drones, both to destroy electronics, and give crash swarmers a nasty surprise. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2007-04-29 17:23 |
| #4 dezinformatsiya Heh. Sy Hersh is such a |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2007-04-29 15:28 |
| #3 What a load of crap! I can see Seymour Let's admit that the US embargo on military equipment and spare parts has had a devastating effect on the Iranian military at all levels. Their Air Force is barely capable of getting aircraft into the air. Their Navy, except for some major equipment purchases, is a rag-tag fleet of small suicide units, because that's all they're capable of deploying. They have huge stocks of the latest Russian and Chinese equipment, but have to have foreigners manning that equipment. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2007-04-29 14:50 |
| #2 Its nice to see that someone still believes in us. If only it were true, and we were realy that capable. Oh, well. Faster Please... |
| Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for N guard 2007-04-29 14:26 |
| #1 Actually Seymour Hersh is slightly less reliable (and more anti-American) than the official Iranian News Agency. Al |
| Posted by: Frozen Al 2007-04-29 14:25 |