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Home Front: WoT
Accused Jewish center shooter pleads insanity
2007-05-31

Followup on Seattle's SJS (Sudden Jihad Syndrome) attack.
Moved to Home Front: WoT, since this attack was surely part of that.
SEATTLE (AP) - Naveed Haq, accused of shooting six women - one fatally - at a Seattle Jewish center last summer, pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity Wednesday as prosecutors tacked on 11 additional charges against him.

Haq, 31, who has a long history of mental illness, initially pleaded not guilty following the July 28 shooting at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle. But at a King County Superior Court hearing before Judge Paris Kallas, he changed it to an insanity plea for the 20 charges he now faces, including aggravated murder, attempted murder, burglary, malicious harassment, kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment.

The additional charges "more accurately reflect the extent of his conduct," said Dan Donohoe, a spokesman for the King County prosecutor's office. Haq now faces one burglary charge and one charge of malicious harassment, the state's hate-crime law, for each victim, as well as the unlawful imprisonment charge.

Trial is scheduled for January. Haq would receive life in prison if convicted of aggravated murder. King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng, who died last week, called the shooting one of the most serious crimes in the city's history, but declined to seek the death penalty because of Haq's history of mental illness.

Haq, who grew up in the Tri-Cities area of south-central Washington, has been treated for bipolar disorder, according to prosecutors, and a family friend said he had been getting psychiatric help for 10 years.

Prosecutors said Haq waited in the vestibule of the downtown Seattle building until 14-year-old Kelsie Burkum arrived to meet Cheryl Stumbo, her aunt. He put a gun to the girl's back and followed her up the stairs to the second floor, then started shooting when one woman tried to call 911. He said he was a Muslim angry about the war in Iraq and U.S. support of Israel.
In other words - Sudden Jihad Syndrome
The shooting ended when Dayna Klein, then 17 weeks pregnant, persuaded the gunman to speak with an emergency operator after he shot Klein in the arm. He agreed to surrender, put his two guns down and walked out, hands on his head, court documents said. Klein later gave birth to a healthy boy.

Pamela Waechter, director of the center's annual fundraising campaign, was killed in the shooting.

Haq's next court date is a pretrial hearing scheduled for Nov.
Posted by:CrazyFool

#19  Believing in Islam doesn't indicate insanity; just stupidity.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-05-31 20:34  

#18  Those who have recurring psychotic episodes are often re-diagnosed as having schizo-affective disorder, which combines elements of the mood instability found in bi-polar with elements of the disordered thinking found in schizophrenia.

So you've met my sister-in-law, have you?
Posted by: Steve   2007-05-31 17:16  

#17  Washington State does have the death penalty for aggravated first degree murder where there are no sufficiently mitigating circumstances to warrant leniency.

We also still have hanging.
Posted by: Baba Tutu   2007-05-31 16:12  

#16  Since he was under treatment for 10 years he must have had it under some sort of control right?

Not necessarily.

'Bi-polar' covers a wide range of mental illnesses and about 20% of those diagnosed bi-polar aren't stabilized long-term by a drug regimen. A few will have one, or sporadic, psychotic episodes which are hard to predict or prevent. Those who have recurring psychotic episodes are often re-diagnosed as having schizo-affective disorder, which combines elements of the mood instability found in bi-polar with elements of the disordered thinking found in schizophrenia.
Posted by: PhrendlePhoenix3201   2007-05-31 14:44  

#15  "Does Washington have the death penalty ? They're pretty liberal up there."
Unfortunately, No we do not.
parts of WA are so liberal and unwilling to hurt anybody that there is baseball league up here that not only doesn't keep score, but nobody is ever 'out', you can swing until you hit and other assorted BS.
Posted by: USN. Ret.   2007-05-31 14:06  

#14  Mr. Haq's mouthpiece lawyer can prove insanity by documenting the koran's words relevent to apes and pigs?
Posted by: Phaque Sforza2222   2007-05-31 13:41  

#13  This is why God gave us the South Pole.
Drop this nut and others like him on the SP and let them live there in peace.

Grusy
Posted by: Grusosh Borgia9229   2007-05-31 12:43  

#12   Death by being shot by Jewish women.

Half of whom will be anti-gun Progressives who will close their eyes and shriek each time that thing in their hands goes "bang!", the other half of whom will bring their own guns... or fighting staffs, nunchucks, throwing stars...
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-05-31 12:32  

#11  Criminal insanity is, in most States, pretty tough to prove.

Of course if you get some muslims or anti semites or lefty nuts on the jury, who knows.
Posted by: mhw   2007-05-31 12:13  

#10  He might be crazy but I'd still like to know if somebody put him up to it.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2007-05-31 12:06  

#9  I thought about filing this under WOT, and was really tempted but this didn't seem as part of the actual 'war' itself - I could be wrong. The mods can move it.

Since he was under treatment for 10 years he must have had it under some sort of control right? Was he refusing to take his meds?

Given that he would be placed in a institution in Washington state he'll probably be out in a couple of years.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2007-05-31 11:38  

#8  Death by being shot by Jewish women.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-05-31 11:38  

#7  If ignorance of the law is no excuse, why should insanity be? If comprehending law was a requirement to breaking it, then no one would ever be guilty the way the pols write the laws.

He should ride the lightning.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2007-05-31 11:33  

#6  Fine, send him to one of those forgotten, run down, insane asylums that are teaming with roaches and rats. Tie him down to a rusty bed frame with piss stained sheets and leave him there to scream it out for about 30 years. When he is supposedly "cured", he can then be tried for the crimes and sent to state prison.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2007-05-31 11:13  

#5  "I;m crazy about slaughterin' Jews, yer Honor!"
Posted by: mojo   2007-05-31 10:43  

#4  Don't the criminally insane have to stay in a locked ward until deemed cured? Given that after ten years of treatment he was capable of this kind of violence, how could the psychiatrists declare him so far improved as to be incapable of another bout of SJS?
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-05-31 10:19  

#3  Why isn't it under WOT?
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-05-31 10:18  

#2  Glenmore,
Right, as a Pak Muz, insanity is a given. Get right past that. Guilty. Cook him. Does Washington have the death penalty ? They're pretty liberal up there.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970   2007-05-31 10:07  

#1  He's got a valid defense - as a Muslim (and a Jihadi one at that) he is obviously crazy. He certainly can't tell right from wrong, since he believes what he did was 'right'. It is equally certain he has no business being loose on the streets - ever. I prescribe a lobotomy - extensive.
Posted by: Glenmore   2007-05-31 09:14  

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