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| Euros Attack US Counter Terror Strategies |
| 2007-06-10 |
| Interview with swiss senator Dick Marty, author of Council of Europe report on CIA activities in Europe, by Thierry Oberle in Bern How do you explain the Italian Government's position in the Abu Omar case? It is paradoxical that members of the present Italian Government who criticized their predecessors when they were in opposition now hold the same posture as Mr Berlusconi's team. Indeed, the Prodi government has its hands tied. It is bound by secret agreements reached with the United States following 11 September. It claims that there are no state secrets, but it refuses to demand the extradition of the CIA agents implicated in the Abu Omar kidnapping in order to honour the Italian state's undertakings. What does the second part of your inquiry reveal? We focused our investigations on secret detention sites in Eastern Europe. We obtained evidence, on the basis of collated information, of the existence of illegal prisons in countries working closely with the United States, such as Poland.By fighting terrorism, you cause it. By using methodology other than the criminal law, you violate terrorist rights. Successful US hardline policies have constrained homeland terror, but at the cost of offending Euro-dhimmism. Why don't these idiots join al-Qaeda? They already serve their interests. The subcontracting established in our countries reflects a lack of respect for the European partners. It is in an insulting attitude. The United States decided to pursue a war without rules against terrorism. The alleged terrorists kidnapped, then tortured and held in rogue states such as Syria had neither civil rights nor rights of war. They became even more dangerous, because they thus enjoyed sympathy in some circles. The mistake was not to treat them for what they are - criminal groups to be prosecuted using appropriate legislation. By kidnapping Abu Omar in Milan, the CIA sabotaged the antiterrorist struggle. Its policy has resulted in disaster.Harborage of terror is an act of war against a sovereign state; by harbouring, a state surrenders claims to inviolability of frontiers. Those ARE the "rules," moron. Did France participate in the CIA programme? The French intelligence services were notified of the US secret programmes, but they did not participate in them directly. Several sources have told us that the DGSE [General Directorate of External Security] knew what was being planned. There was no cooperation, because the CIA mistrusted France, and the latter has its own rather successful methods, since it warned the United States before 11 September of the imminence of a terrorist attack on its territory. |
| Posted by:McZoid |
| #4 Well, here we go again.... |
| Posted by: newc 2007-06-10 18:03 |
| #3 The United States decided to pursue a war without rules against terrorism. Au contraire, tete merde. If we pursued a war without rules, there would be far fewer living in certain areas and we would have used those troops sitting in Europe to grab the terrorists you shelter. |
| Posted by: Gary and the Samoyeds 2007-06-10 15:54 |
| #2 The United States decided to pursue a war without rules against terrorism. Let's do the math. Terrorists have no inhibiting rules to regulate their predatory activities. The more rules we impose upon ourselves with respect to combating terrorism, the greater of a disadvantage we place ourselves in. Ergo, a no-holds-barred strategy gives us greatest leverage against those who wage asymmetrical warfare. Why is this so unclear to the Europeans? The alleged terrorists kidnapped, then tortured and held in rogue states such as Syria had neither civil rights nor rights of war. Which is as it should be. Once a group undertakes military attacks upon other nations without use of identifying uniforms or overtly coordinated battle formations, they voluntarily forfeit all right to due legal process. The same goes for all nations that sponsor terrorism or harbor terrorist operatives, they automatically relinquish all claim to sovereign rights of territory. Unfortunately, too many of this world's political leaders are loath to tread upon each others' toes and thereby give many rogue regimes a free pass so as not to inspire any unrest against themselves. The hyper-corrupt African dictatorships spring to mind along with Burma, Syria, Iran and numerous other failed states that deserve only the very swiftest dismantling. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-06-10 01:17 |
| #1 since it warned the United States before September 11 That would imply that we were unaware that some sort of terrorist act was coming soon. Idiot. |
| Posted by: Mike N 2007-06-10 01:08 |