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Britain
Gordon Brown rules out referendum on EU
2007-07-04
Gordon Brown yesterday ruled out holding a referendum on a new European constitutional treaty as part of a wide-ranging package of reforms to give "more power to Parliament and the British people".

Gordon Brown is expected to sign a new treaty incorporating the bulk of the EU constitution

In his first Commons statement as Prime Minister, Mr Brown offered to give up powers ranging from appointing bishops to declaring war and hinted that general elections could be held at weekends. But he excluded two pressing constitutional issues from his package of reforms: the growing demand for "English votes for English laws" to balance devolution to Scotland and Wales and Labour's manifesto commitment at the last election to hold a referendum on the European Union constitution.

Later this year, Mr Brown is expected to sign a new treaty incorporating the bulk of the EU constitution - including a new foreign policy chief, a permanent president and the surrender of 52 national vetoes - rejected by voters in France and Holland in 2005.

The deal - struck by Tony Blair as one of his last acts as Prime Minister - has led to a campaign calling for a referendum on the issue.

David Cameron, the Conservative leader, while welcoming many of the reforms, challenged Mr Brown to hold a referendum on the treaty, which he said involved the further transfer of power from Westminster to Brussels.

"It should be put to the people," Mr Cameron said.

Mr Brown said that only one of the EU's 27 members - Ireland - had so far proposed a referendum. Parliament, he said, would have the explicit power to ratify the treaty. The last Conservative government did not hold a referendum on the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 or previous treaties, he said.

Earlier, during Foreign Office questions in the Commons, Tory MPs highlighted Government confusion over the status of the proposed EU treaty, saying that one of Mr Brown's new ministers had labelled it a constitution.

Mark Francois, the Tory spokesman on Europe, said Sir Digby Jones, the business minister, had said the treaty was a constitution and to suggest otherwise was a "con". But Jim Murphy, the Europe minister, said the "constitutional element" had been abandoned in the new treaty.
more at the link, including details of the 'English votes for English laws' issue


Posted by:lotp

#13  BigJim, its much worse than that. They don't even get to vote for PM. They just get stuck with one from the majority party. Parliamentary thingy. Its a many nuanceded procedure that's far too complicated for an American such as myself.
Posted by: Mike N.    2007-07-04 21:21  

#12  So how did Gordon Brown get his position?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2007-07-04 21:16  

#11  > Good move guys, you elected him,

We didn't. Get your facts right.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2007-07-04 17:27  

#10  Brown certainly seems supremely fluent at mouthing all the Politically Correct Muslim appeasing bloviation that the EU holds in such high esteem.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-07-04 15:49  

#9  John Major, without the zest for life, returned as a socialist.
Posted by: Pappy   2007-07-04 13:15  

#8  John Major returned as a socialist.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-07-04 11:31  

#7  Good move guys, you elected him, now I hope you're happy with the outcome.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2007-07-04 10:50  

#6  Sounds like they are doomed.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2007-07-04 09:39  

#5  He looks seriously plastered...

Britain's answer to the Kennedys!
Posted by: Raj   2007-07-04 06:54  

#4  In a coup all laws are now null and void.

It's a coup.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan   2007-07-04 05:19  

#3  Sorry, Brits. You've had a good run but it's clear that now you're done. I still just don't understand how a group of people who saw off the Germans and the Japs could surrender to a bunch of unwashed camel herders, though. What happened to you?
Posted by: Mac   2007-07-04 04:12  

#2  Tranzis have less affinity for referendums than vampires have for crosses.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723   2007-07-04 03:28  

#1  ...ruled out holding a referendum...to give "more power to Parliament and the British people".

So far he's the odds-on favorite to win the Orwell Newspeak Award. The Brits may soon be wishing they had Tony back. BTW, that pic is just begging for a good caption. He looks seriously plastered...
Posted by: PBMcL   2007-07-04 02:11  

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