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Today's Idiot, Dutch Catholic Bishop: Christians Should Pray to Allah
2007-08-14
Hat Tip, LGF
The Roman Catholic bishop of Breda in the Netherlands wants Christians to start praying to Allah.
To promote healing and tolerance and worship of a pagan moon god.
The Bishop of Breda, Tiny Muskens, wants people to start calling God Allah. He says the Netherlands should look to Indonesia, where the Christian churches already pray to Allah. It is also common in the Arab world: Christian and Muslim Arabs use the words God and Allah interchangeably.

Speaking on the Dutch TV programme Network on Monday evening, Bishop Muskens says it could take another 100 years but eventually the name Allah will be used by Dutch churches. And that will promote rapprochement between the two religions. ...
Perhaps if Christians started practicing pedophilia it would happen sooner ...
More than 30 years ago Bishop Muskens worked in Indonesia and, there, God was called Allah, even in Catholic churches. The Dutch should learn to get on spontaneously with different cultures, religions and behaviour patterns: “Someone like me has prayed to Allah yang maha kuasa (Almighty God) for eight years in Indonesia and other priests for 20 or 30 years. In the heart of the Eucharist, God is called Allah over there, so why can’t we start doing that together?” ...
Dhimmitude is never pretty
Posted by:Icerigger

#14  Trailing wife: I really enjoyed Martin Buber's "I and Thou", a simple, easy to read book of amazing complexity and insight about the personal pronoun as applies to God-human and human-human relationships.

Ironically, throughout human history, what Buber wrote applies, except that were he still alive, he might need to add a revision specifically for Abigail and Brittany Hensel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_and_Brittany_Hensel

On the surface it doesn't seem to be a problem, but for them, and they as individuals, the personal pronoun becomes very taxed, very quickly.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-08-14 22:27  

#13  I think God prefers to deal with the "Fruit of the Spirit" and not the "Religious Nuts".
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2007-08-14 21:07  

#12  I'll get on that one right away there bish'....

(BTW - he prefers the name "Big Guy in the Sky" -- he told me so & that's a no shitter)
Posted by: Broadhead6   2007-08-14 20:17  

#11  Umm, you are fired, dude.
Posted by: newc   2007-08-14 18:16  

#10  Oh for Christ's sake!!
Posted by: GORT   2007-08-14 16:36  

#9  Just call all God, divine deity, or intelligent designer (computer programmer of massive simulation?) THE ONE.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-08-14 16:26  

#8  Funny, he has lived a while in Indonesia (ex-Dutch colony) which when I lived there in the early 80's was pretty secular and not a rabid Islamic jihadi state like it is today. When I went to our "formalities and credentials" interview with the Indonesian version of Immigration (actually the secret police), the first question on the form was: "Where were you on June 19th (?) 1949". That was when the Indonesian insurgents rebelled against the Dutch master and there was blood.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-08-14 16:23  

#7  This story has actually been posted here before Icerigger; however, I personally see no reason why we shouldn't hang him up here again and beat him like a pinata.
Posted by: Free Radical   2007-08-14 16:23  

#6  The actual pronunciation of the two Hebrew letter combinations in the Torah (the five books of Moses) has been lost, but in English Y-y is generally transliterated as "Yahweh" and Y-h-o[v]-h as Yehovah or Jehovah. In Hebrew we say Adonai (our Lord) and Elohenu (our God) as substitute for the unknown names. Perhaps Bishop Muskens might like to try that? It's what his Saviour used when He prayed, after all.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-08-14 16:02  

#5  Muskens is retiring in a month. This might be his flame out before he goes. The Pope should fire his ass before then.

Aparently he forgot about a book called the Bible.

And God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM and WHAT I AM, and I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE; and He said, You shall say this to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you!

God said also to Moses, This shall you say to the Israelites: The Lord, the God of your fathers, of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, has sent me to you! This is My name forever, and by this name I am to be remembered to all generations.


Posted by: Icerigger   2007-08-14 15:29  

#4  There's an active movement among a handful of bishops in several churches to do away with the scandal of the cross and resurrection. This is just one more instance of the rot within.
Posted by: lotp   2007-08-14 15:06  

#3  John Frum nails it, but it's common sense and even basic decency, and it goes against multiculturalism.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-08-14 14:57  

#2  The Bishop of Breda, Tiny Muskens

Is that his body? Or his mind?
Posted by: tu3031   2007-08-14 14:55  

#1  How about the Dutch Muslims use the Dutch word for God instead?

Since they're "Dutch" and all...

Posted by: john frum   2007-08-14 14:51  

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