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| India-Pakistan |
| Dinner in Malmo |
| 2007-09-14 |
| "What do you think will happen now?" asked the soft-spoken Jamila. We were sitting in a restaurant in Malmo, Sweden. She had recently returned from Pakistan after spending three wonderful months in Bagh, helping the victims of an earthquake, which has been forgotten by most Pakistanis due to the unfolding of a political drama of high stakes. Jamila is a Swedish-born daughter of Pakistani immigrants. "Nothing new," said Dr Jamal. "The same old game will be replayed. Perhaps, with more violence. Many lives will be destroyed, then the new rulers or the same old rulers will get busy with the task of plundering the country." "Don't be so hopeless," Jamila said with youthful energy. "I cannot stand this anymore. Wherever you go in Pakistan, people speak in the same way. I have never experienced such hopelessness in my entire life. There has to be a solution." |
| Posted by:john frum |
| #8 The trouble is, not enough muslims know enough about European history, or believe it. Word, Tony. It falls in line with how they always spin even the worst sort of defeat into a most magnificent victory. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-09-14 23:15 |
| #7 The Professor is right. Europe is perfectly capable of doing the things the Professor says. The trouble is, not enough muslims know enough about European history, or believe it. |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2007-09-14 18:16 |
| #6 Angie, actually, I would go with 3) both of the above. |
| Posted by: Rambler 2007-09-14 13:36 |
| #5 You see, all you need to do is create a state of mass hysteria and fear, then you can do anything with these people. OK, children, question time. The state of mass hysteria and fear is caused by: 1) Terrorists, mainly Muslim, or 2) Our own fascist bureaKKKrats, eager to assert power over grandmothers bearing four ounces of Skin So Soft. |
| Posted by: Angie Schultz 2007-09-14 10:14 |
| #4 Jack is right. That is why it is fun to watch the Swedes don the cloak of invisibility when they take the flying boat to Copenhagen and actually have fun for awhile. Of course, the cloak comes off on the way back to Malmo and the burden of responsibility is reshouldered. I worked extensively with the FFV, FMV, and the Royal Swedish Air Force back in the day and believe that there are no more fierce warriors on earth than the Swedes when they allow themselves to be. |
| Posted by: RWV 2007-09-14 10:06 |
| #3 TW: I think I have noted before, we have a very close friend in Malmo. She is a doctor there and we visit often. It is a haven of Muzzies. I'd believe anything coming out of there. The Swedes are really worried now - not their politicians but the average Olaf and Helga. The trouble is that they are not an activist society, they willingly believe the politicians will figure this all out. They are also a very passive society - look at the way they play ice hockey - not the cannuck way of purposely starting fights to get the scorers off the ice but in a controlled precise athletic way. Same goes for how they go through life. |
| Posted by: Jack is Back! 2007-09-14 09:45 |
| #2 "Our children grow up in an alien culture, we lose our language, culture, even religion--all in just one generation. Is this just typical immigrant moaning, or are there really significant numbers of apostates? If so, then the demand for freedom from religion made on 9/11 is an even bigger cat thrown amongst the pigeons than I thought. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-09-14 08:34 |
| #1 "That is exactly what I fear," Professor Kareem said, "the way things are going, the day when Europe takes off its kid gloves may not be far off, and we will relive the Andalusian tragedy at a scale far greater than any Greek tragedy." The Islamist hard core shelters behind the "moderate muslim". To achieve change in Islam, direct pressure on the moderates to openly challenge the Islamists and renounce the offensive portions of the Koran is required. Their fear of another Andalusia may be useful... |
| Posted by: john frum 2007-09-14 05:28 |