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Youths riot in French town
2007-10-06
French police clashed overnight with youths who went on a rampage in a town in eastern France, prompting Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to travel to the troublespot.

Between 40 and 50 masked youths used metal bars to smash a firefighters' vehicle and a police car dispatched to a shopping mall in Saint-Dizier, said Yves Guillot, the head of the Haute-Marne regional government. The youths then fanned out across the town of 30,000 inhabitants, setting fire to two buildings, a car rental office and 16 vehicles. Police reinforcements were sent in to quell the violence.

"We are trying to understand what happened. We have had clashes in our town but not on this scale," said Mayor Francois Cornut-Gentille.

Between 40 and 50 masked youths used metal bars to smash a firefighters' vehicle and a police car.

The youths then fanned out across the town of 30,000 inhabitants, setting fire to two buildings, a car rental office and 16 vehicles.
The youths are said to be residents of Saint-Dizier's low-income housing project, Vert-bois, which is home to 12,000 people.

Alliot-Marie was due to travel to Saint-Dizier, some 200 kilometers (125 miles) east of Paris, after police and fire emergency authorities were targeted in the violence, her office said.

Hundreds of suburbs across France exploded into rioting for three weeks in late 2005, highlighting the nation's failure to integrate its Arab and African immigrants
Posted by:lotp

#32  200 Klicks east of Paree? The splodie-wannas seem to have reconstituted in coueboy country.
Posted by: Leonard Plynth Garnell   2007-10-06 20:50  

#31  McZoid, sniping at fire trucks and ambulances was de rigeur when our cities burned in the late 60s.
Posted by: RWV   2007-10-06 20:37  

#30  $20K price x 50K CBQs = $1,000,000,000, that's ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

Damn! That's near 1/12 of the Missississississississippah state budget.
Posted by: O. Fabus (ret. und ded)   2007-10-06 18:27  

#29  Where does this money come from

At the very least their car insurance premiums are gonna be skyballin'.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305   2007-10-06 17:59  

#28  Car BBQ total jumped after the 2005 ramadan riots; now it's about 100 a day, for a grand total between 30 and 40K a year, counting only insured cars, and the initial fires (that is, if your car burns and destroy the car parked right next to it, only your it counted in stats).

All social implications aside, this one figure is a mind-bender.

Due to intentional under-reporting, the real number is easily some 50,000 torched cars per year. Let's select a median price of $20,000 per car. I'm sure that with their prohibitive luxury taxes, European car prices average much higher but we'll stick with the $20K figure.

$20K price x 50K CBQs = $1,000,000,000, that's ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

One billion dollars flushed down the Islamic toilet each and every year.Who's fooling whom? Where does this money come from and, more importantly, how is anyone deceiving themselves about the overwhelmingly negative impact of Muslim immigrants upon France? Add in whatever untold billions spent on the legenday French social services that support this overburden of Islamic parasites and these numbers approach some fraction of a trillion dollars spent each year.

Lastly, it becomes increasingly difficult to summon up much sympathy for those who so cheerfully collaborated in creating the Eurabia Pact. I realize that the common French people had little say in the actions of their political elite but they elected these communist Arabophillic thugs and must now suffer the consequences.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-06 14:53  

#27  #25 Sometimes I get so much from the Rantburg comments than I do from the original article.
So much more I meant to say.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 2007-10-06 12:53


It ain't called Rantburg U for nothin!
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-10-06 14:47  

#26  "Between 40 and 50 masked youths"

Dammit French press, when are you gonna start calling things by their proper names? I have no sympathy for France as long as you let muzzies flood in, and refuse to call them by their proper name, even in the face of their violence and atrocity.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2007-10-06 14:23  

#25  Sometimes I get so much from the Rantburg comments than I do from the original article.

So much more I meant to say.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305   2007-10-06 12:53  

#24  Hundreds of suburbs across France exploded into rioting for three weeks in late 2005, highlighting the nation's failure to integrate its Arab and African immigrants

Had to read all the way to the last paragraph for this little clue about the identity of the "youths". I guess you could say that at least it was there. Sometimes I get so much from the Rantburg comments than I do from the original article.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305   2007-10-06 12:52  

#23  Damn, thousands of them little guys. What a picture!
Posted by: Thomas Woof   2007-10-06 11:31  

#22  Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-10-06 11:00  

#21  The trend has shifted in France. Everything runs in cycles, and the cycle of tolerance has reached its zenith, now less and less tolerance as time marches. Expect violent reaction in a year or two.
Posted by: wxjames   2007-10-06 10:44  

#20  Why, A5089, they FLNC looks just like other terrorists! Whotta surprise!
Posted by: Bobby   2007-10-06 09:37  

#19  #17 Bombings in Corsica? I didn't real about that in The Washington Post.

Whenever Corsica is mentioned, I post that link (scroll down for effect), this always cracks me up :-).

The independence mvt now is basically moribund, at least for the time being, and the way the various successive gvts haggled with the favorite splinter group of the moment, all the while the nationalists were busy making money through revolutionnary taxes, killing each others, and bombing State buildings, shooting up police stations, and blowing up houses owned by metropolitans has been a three decades long Quagmire.
Remember, the high mark was 600 bombings a year (a part of them not political, corsicans are well-famed for packing hea, a rare thing in France, and being "trigger happy"... this is vendetta land, and grudges are to be settled the old fashioned way for some), for a 250 000 inhabitants islands.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-06 08:20  

#18  Two things to watch for:

1. Will it spread
2. How will Sarkozy respond

The future of France is in the balance:)
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-10-06 08:05  

#17  Bombings in Corsica? I didn't real about that in The Washington Post.

Oh, that's right; I don't read Mrs. Bobby's WaPo.

But 'Burgers provide perspective! Thanks A5089!
Posted by: Bobby   2007-10-06 08:05  

#16  Car BBQ total jumped after the 2005 ramadan riots; now it's about 100 a day, for a grand total between 30 and 40K a year, counting only insured cars, and the initial fires (that is, if your car burns and destroy the car parked right next to it, only your it counted in stats).

It's one of those mindboogling numbers from the Happy Land of France, kinda like the 600 or so bombings each year in Corsica, back in the late 80's & 90's (now, it's down to about only... 100 a year IIRC).
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-06 06:58  

#15  Already? They usually wait until November. Only a moron would attack a fire truck.

What's the burnt car record? 10,000? Maybe they will top it this year.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-10-06 06:27  

#14  Hie thy self unto ye range 5089. It'll do wonders for your self-esteem and your nerves, wymens love teh gunz.


Also, hellacious commentary.

Posted by: Thomas Woof   2007-10-06 05:47  

#13  That's a real question, I should let a real person like JFM answers that. I'm not a real person, I just play one on the internet.

IMHO, french attitude has shifted; speech has been freed, with stuff that literally would have ended someone's social life only a few years ago being put on print in MSM mags, like "Le Point" making articles about the muslim flavor of french crime (with 70% of those processed through the judicial system being from immigrant background), or the out of control and violently racist gangs of black Youths.

This is part of a larger shift in french society; as the symptoms worsen, the Enlightened Elites find it hader and harder to hide Reality™ being newspeak. After all, even if he's passed the occasion, Sarko has been elected as a "rupture" (paradigm shift) president. French people know something is terribly wrong, with the way the country is ran, and with what's happening with immigration.

BUT, apart from that relative liberty and change of discourse (because the overbearing PCness of earlier times is getting more and more ridicule and unsustainable), the antiracist orgs still are State-funded and still sue peoples into conforming, despite the fact their mask has fallen and they appear for what they are, like that 53 years old woman being currently sued after she refused to rent to a veiled woman in her guest house (probably a set up from the start, a sting operation if you wish),... and there still is the whole infrastructure of social engineering in the 'hoods, with complicit (either becasue they're Youths themselves, or because they're trotskysts) social workers, the billions and billions of euros spend on them yearly,...

So, if you want to get my uneducated guess (ask JFM for a real analysis), Reality™ has not improved, quite the contrary, because the heavy political, demographical, cultural,... trends still are here, but speech has become less restricted. Mags can speak about african gangs now, but back in the 90's, there were the "zulus", black african gangs with some whose speciality was gangraping white girls for recreational or initiation purpose (not a fantasy, many were jugged, until the gangs were broken); in 1998, after the world cup victory, there was much much violence during the celebrations on the night of the victory, with Youths attacking european-looking french... Nothing has changed, just that now, the mags have admitted that in the 90's, they kept mum so not to "feed the National front", that in 1998 they kept mum because that victory was the victory of the France Black-blanc-beur (the "rainbow France"),...

How can the Forces of Progress pretend there is no anti-white racism from the Youths, when their kids get beaten up and assaulted when they do the ritual demonstrations against the Man, and the joyful Youths explain they love to kick whitey's ass, because he's weak and effete, and he doesn't fight back? How can they say there are no more immigrants today than in the 1930's, when Paris and the areas are so heavily africanized, with even the leftist/PC national statistics institute Insee admitting that 1/4 of french births come from parents with non-european backgrounds?

And all this, funnily enough, when the most visible expression of the french "unease" about rampant immigration, mismanagement of the country, and unwanted transformation of the Nation into something else, the FN, being basically dead, with its new leftist/multiculturalist (for lack of a better term) stance that has lost it half its voters... who went to vote Sarko and his "tough talk". Heh.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-06 05:39  

#12  You touched on part of that, but if you want plz elaborate.
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-10-06 05:04  

#11  anonymous5089 whats up with the French attitudes towards the immigrants today?

we didn't see hardly any Social reps excusing the rampaging behavior of the "youths" in that clip.

Does this mean that folks are changing their bleeding heart sentiments in France now, or does does it mean that my French comprehension skills just suck?
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-10-06 05:01  

#10  French Citizens + Shotguns + The Will To Shoot = Police Crackdown on Militias, MSM Hysteria About The "Darkest Hours Of Our History™" (AKA Vichy), Subsequent Laws Restricting Gun Possession Even More.

If/When someday there is some kind of convulsive crisis like the ones France has undergone regularly since the inception of the Republic, I have no doubt that if the Enlightened Elites find themselves threatened, they will have no qualms supporting the "daughters sons of the Republic" from the 'hoods against the raaaacccisssts and the faaassciissts.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-06 04:52  

#9  From that, the CarBBQ total is 40, plus the buildings ransacked or torched.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-06 04:47  

#8  French Citizens + Shotguns + The Will To Shoot = Docile Immigrants.

Either Docile From The State of Ded-ness or Busy Docile From The State of Working and/or Going to School.
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#6 I'm full of sympathy.

#7 How did you manage to pull that off, grîm'goru?

#8 symp is gr0m's middle name.

~:)

/bad bad sincerely RD bad
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-10-06 04:46  

#7  How did you manage to pull that off, grоmgoru?

Ah! /sarc missing ;-)
Posted by: twobyfour   2007-10-06 03:52  

#6  I'm full of sympathy.
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-10-06 03:48  

#5  Jacobins.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-06 03:37  

#4  Not Hugenots, that's for certain.
Posted by: twobyfour   2007-10-06 02:00  

#3  Youths? Were they Presbyterians by chance? The article doesn't say.
Posted by: gromky   2007-10-06 01:34  

#2  Maybe they learned BRITAIN wants to start taxing every second bag of trash waste, ala DAILY MAIL.UK. Precedent for French croissants???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-10-06 00:36  

#1  A town of 30k has a housing project of 12k? A social experiment gone bad? That town sounds like it's outnumbered.
Posted by: Xenophon   2007-10-06 00:17  

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