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Home Front: Politix
Pelosi says she'll press on with Armenian 'genocide' resolution
2007-10-15
WASHINGTON (CNN) House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Sunday that she intends to move ahead with a vote on a resolution that labels the deaths of more than a million Armenians during World War I as genocide.

The resolution has strained U.S. relations with Turkey and drawn criticism from the Bush administration. "This resolution is one that is consistent with what our government has always said about ... what happened at that time," Pelosi said on ABC's "This Week."
And it's critical and I do mean critical to liberal interests that we bring this up now.
When asked about criticism that it could harm relations with Turkey, a key ally in the war in Iraq and a fellow member of NATO, Pelosi said, "There's never been a good time," adding that it is important to pass the resolution now "because many of the survivors are very old."
There's never a good time, but some times are worse than others.
"When I came to Congress 20 years ago, it wasn't the right time because of the Soviet Union. Then that fell, and then it wasn't the right time because of the Gulf War One. And then it wasn't the right time because of overflights of Iraq. And now it's not the right time because of Gulf War Two.
Oh, I'm sure you could have found a point or two in there that you could have hurled this insult at a nation too proud to want to acknowledge this and willing to retaliate somehow to prove it.
"And, again, the survivors of the Armenian genocide are not going to be with us."
Neither will we if you keep things up. But who's counting?
The survivors of countless genocides that occurred throughout human history are no longer with us, and we're not passing resolutions about them.

But if Nancy wants to do something positive about responding to a genocide, she could praise George W. Bush for stopping Saddam's genocidal rule in Iraq. But I guess the "time isn't right" for that one either.
But White House Spokesman Tony Fratto said bringing the resolution to a vote "may do grave harm to U.S.-Turkish relations and to U.S. interests in Europe and the Middle East."

Turkey's top general warned Sunday that ties with the United States will be irreversibly damaged if Congress passes the resolution, The Associated Press reported. Turkey has recalled its ambassador from Washington for consultations and warned of cuts in logistical support to the United States over the issue. The recall is only for a limited period of time, said a U.S. State Department official who talked to the ambassador.
Yeah, she knows. And is counting on it.
The Turks aren't handling this well, not that one would expect them to. They could have said, look, this happened during a World War in the time of our predecessors, the Ottomans. Of course we deplore genocide as much as the next person. And that would have been that. Instead, they've allowed their pride to think for them.
"If this resolution [that] passed in the committee passes the House as well, our military ties with the U.S. will never be the same again," Gen. Yasar Buyukanit told the daily Milliyet newspaper, according to AP.

The House Foreign Affairs Committee voted 27-21 Wednesday to approve the nonbinding measure, which declares the deportation of nearly 2 million Armenians from the Ottoman Empire between 1915 and 1923 was "systematic" and "deliberate," amounting to "genocide." The deportations led to the deaths of an estimated 1.5 million people. But Sunday, Pelosi stood by her previous assertion that the measure would be taken to a full vote if it passed the committee.

Newly installed chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Michael Mullen, tried to calm tensions by phoning his Turkish counterpart shortly after Wednesday's vote.
"What can we do? She's an idiot but SF voted her in."
Mullen told Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, Turkey's chief of staff, that the Pentagon is working hard to inform Congress of what the military implications might be if the Turks were to respond by cutting off U.S. access to the air base at Incirlik in Turkey. Seventy percent of U.S. air cargo bound for Iraq passes over or through Turkey.
Say, you don't suppose Nancy is using the resolution as a back-door attempt to stop our good work in Iraq, do you?
The Armenian government and Armenians around the world, including many Armenian-Americans, have been pressing for international support for their contention that Armenians were the victims of genocide at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.
Then what?
Then they can feel good about themselves, particularly since the Turks are bellowing Dire Revenge™. They'll pat themselves on the back and say that they avenged the spirits of their great-great-grandparents, or some such. They'll have perpetuated the millenium-long grudge match for another generation. And they'll call themselves Americans.
The Ottoman Empire disintegrated in 1923, replaced by the modern republic of Turkey, where the Armenian issue remains sensitive. Turks reject the genocide label, insisting there was no organized campaign against the Armenians and that many Turks also died in the chaos and violence of the period.
The latter is true, the former is false, and the Turks should just say so and be done with it. Kinda hard to keep flogging the horse once you've said, "gee, you're right, we're sorry about what people did ninty years ago."
Speaking later on ABC's "This Week," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell denounced the House committee's vote, despite agreeing with the assertion that the killings amounted to genocide. "I think it's a really bad idea for the Congress to be condemning what happened 100 years ago," the Kentucky Republican said Sunday. "We all know it happened. There's a genocide museum, actually, in Armenia to commemorate what happened.
Yeah, but Pelosi wants libs to be able to feel good about something, even if it involves shooting her country in the foot.
"But I don't think the Congress passing this resolution is a good idea at any point. But particularly not a good idea when Turkey is cooperating with us in many ways, which ensures greater safety for our soldiers."
It's a deliberate stick in the eye, calculated to inflame and perhaps calculated to cause us problems in Iraq. Keep your eye on the narrative here, folks ...
Republican Sen. Lindsay Graham echoed those comments on CNN's Late Edition. "I'm not worried about World War I. ... I'm worried about what I think is World War III, a war against extremists, and Iraq is the central battle front and Turkey has been a very good ally," Graham said Sunday. "We've had problems with Turkey, but the problem that Turkey has with the northern part of Iraq, if you think it is bad now, let the country fail."
Personally, I don't think this has a chance in hades. The Donks have really outdone themselves this time and if this actually passes and gets onto peoples' radar the fallout would only further reveal predatory liberal duplicity and reckless attempts to grab power. Or cluelessness. Uh oh . . . .

Even if this is legitimate, I can't imagine what she is trying to prove and to whom. She won't buy enough votes to stick in her closed elegant ear. There is no way that this resolution will prove anything about a situation from so long ago. Perhaps she is trying to divert attention. I think she'd do a better job by jumping off the rotunda for all the good it would do. Maybe she thinks she has the power to write history, I don't know.
Posted by:gorb

#7  Press forward into the gathering twilight, FR. The outcome will not be bright nor illuminating. Are the Donks next going to lobby for reparations?
Posted by: Phinater Thraviger   2007-10-15 19:32  

#6  Well, I have to disagree with some of the comments here.
The Armenian genocide DID happen, and there are plenty of newspaper articles from Turkey advocating the indescrimate killing of Armenian *Christians.*
If the Donks want to pass this, I am going to think a little better of them.
Posted by: Free Radical   2007-10-15 18:36  

#5  The Armenian genocide was horrific, which makes it doubly EVIL that SanFranNan, would insist on this now,and upset things. In truth the Treasonocratic Party cares more about power than our soldiers, because they are playing on the low IQs of the uninformed to get votes. They know what the truth is, and SanFranNan will have blood on her hands, if Turkey pulls the plug, and our soldiers are hurt/killed because of these shennanigans.
Posted by: BigEd   2007-10-15 15:55  

#4  It seems to me that they could alter the resolution, estimate the total number of deaths, label the deaths the result of a series of government and religiously instigated progroms (which is at least as historically accurate as the word genocide) and condemns the government of Turkey and its religious leaders for their failure to admit complicity.

That way, the word 'genocide' isn't used.
Posted by: mhw   2007-10-15 12:45  

#3  Probably doesn't want a couple of hundred Armenian hippies camping out on her lawn...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-10-15 10:55  

#2  Why should the fact Congress ALREADY passed such resolutions twice get in the way. Last one was in 1983 I think.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2007-10-15 10:24  

#1  I don't know what it is, but I'm sure it's for the children and grandchildren. Oh, and the missed window after the Gulf War 1, was because all the good liberal women in Washington were practicing their Lewinski techniques.
Posted by: wxjames   2007-10-15 09:23  

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