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India-Pakistan
'Pakistan army ill-suited to fight tribal insurgency'
2007-10-23
No matter what government is in office, the Pakistan army is “ill-suited and perhaps incapable” of accomplishing the necessary in the Tribal Areas bordering Afghanistan, according to a report appearing here.
Though they're perfectly suited to palace politics, intrigue and nepotism ...
The analysis by Mark Sappenfield in the Christian Science Monitor quotes Moeed Yusuf of Strategic and Economic Policy Research, Islamabad, as saying, “If this continues, the army will tone it down because there will be too many losses.” The US must temper its expectations of what Pakistan can do militarily in the war on terror or risk inflaming the situation further, through increased anti-American attitudes or even possible defections from the army.
I rather suspect the White House understands exactly what the Pak army can't do ...
The US correspondent writes that the offensive is almost universally perceived to be an American war contracted out to its Pakistani ally. The army built to counter the massive threat of the Indian military is being asked to fight its own citizens in an unpopular counterinsurgency campaign that it has neither the will nor the skill-set to fight. “The Army officers have started realising that this battle is not worth the cost,” according to Hassan Abbas of Harvard University. “It has had a huge impact on the psychology of the Army.”

Yusuf told the Monitor that despite misgivings about the current offensive in the Tribal Areas, the army brass does not dismiss the need for action there. “The military is thinking about it very seriously. The threat is an internal one for years to come.” Some in the army still believe the militants are a useful and manageable tool.
That's the ISI wing talking.
If the West leaves Afghanistan – as many here believe it will – they will give Pakistan a means to influence events there. Moreover, the army is hardly designed to take them on in their own territory. Since its inception, the Pakistani army has looked eastward to India, focusing on the plains of Punjab and sands of Sindh, from where any invasion might come. It is not trained to fight the kind of insurgency it is now engaged in.
Nor does it particularly want to. It's amazing how experts and journalists keep glossing over the fact that the ISI created the Taliban.
The article quotes Pakistani diplomat Zamir Akram as telling a recent meeting in Washington, “When we hear people in Washington or London say that Pakistan needs to do more, the question is: Do you understand what you’re asking us to do? Would you go into Texas or wherever on the border areas and actually kill Americans?” For this reason, many experts do not expect the current offensive to continue. If it does, the army “will get divided vertically,” with officers remaining loyal to headquarters and the rank and file becoming increasingly alienated, according to Ayesha Siddiqa. “Cracks are appearing,” she adds. She agrees that the way forward is not militarily – it is by developing the region economically over the next 15 to 20 years, undercutting the poverty and lack of education that feeds extremism.
Closing the madrassas and shooting the trouble-makers would help.
Posted by:Fred

#6   I am not confident that the Paki Army can fight anyone who can shoot back.


I am not confident that the Paki Army WILL fight anyone who can shoot back.
Posted by: Crusader   2007-10-23 16:31  

#5  It is not trained to fight the kind of insurgency it is now engaged in.

They are trained to create them, not fight them.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-23 15:20  

#4  A Pakistani swat team did a pretty good job clearing out the Red Mosque recently,

but,

- they were the best force that the Paks have
- they had a bunch of fatalies
- the terrorists have quietly retaken the Red Mosque
Posted by: mhw   2007-10-23 13:52  

#3  I am not confident that the Paki Army can fight anyone who can shoot back.

A friend of mine who was in Somalia said the Paki soldiers were less capable than your average American civilian (with no training what so ever).

Things have only gotten worse since then.

If you remember, in 2001 many Paki officers joined the Taliban to fight the American invasion of Afghanistan. It took only a few weeks to take over the country.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2007-10-23 13:40  

#2  You know more about India/palistan than I but from my readings the problem with Hykamatiar was that he had bombarded Kabul indiacrimantely and also that he had the bad habit to have his ass handled by Massoud. At one point it mlust have been evident even for his more ardent supporters in Pakistan that he was a loser and taht it was time to find another horse. Also AFAIK Hykmatiar was more nationalist and less islamist than Mullah Omar and thus less likely to compromise on the devolution of Afgahan territories after the expiry of the Durand treaty.
Posted by: JFM   2007-10-23 07:38  

#1  Funny how they had no problem killing more than a million of their fellow citizens in 1971. And those were unarmed civilians. A few thousand, armed jihadists in open revolt against the Pakistani state should not really worry them.

But they need the jihadists to destabilize India and Afghanistan. All part of the '1000 year war' declared by Benazir's father.

Benazir Bhutto and her interior minister Nasrullah Babar created the Taliban, over the then opposition of the ISI (who backed Hekmatyr).

All talk of invasion of Sindh is just deception. An attempt to deflect American criticism.
India does not want additional tens of millions of rabid Muslim citizens. It will not invade Pakistan.
And in any case, the Pak army cannot withstand a full Indian assault. If the 3 Indian Strike Corps enter Sindh or Punjab, they will overwhelm the Pak opposition.
Posted by: john frum   2007-10-23 06:54  

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