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Civil liberties group challenges US visa ban for Muslim "intellectual"
2007-10-26
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) challenged in federal court Thursday the US government's refusal to grant a travel visa to Swiss-based Muslim academic Tariq Ramadan.
This is about the elebenteenth time someone has gone to bat for the innocent Tariq ...
Ramadan, one of the world's leading scholars on Islam, was forced to turn down a tenured position at the University of Notre Dame when the US government revoked his visa in late 2004 on the basis of the so-called "ideological exclusion" provision of the Patriot Act.

Washington later dropped its claim, unable to prove that Ramadan had endorsed terrorism.
Apparently they couldn't parse his writing, seeing as it was written in academese ...
But it banned the academic in September 2006 on grounds he made donations between 1998 and 2002 to a Swiss-based charity that provides aid to Palestinians. The charity was included in a US list of terrorist organizations in 2003.

"The government is barring Professor Ramadan not because of his actions but because of his ideas," ACLU's National Security Project Director Jameel Jaffer told the court in New York. "Ideological exclusion is a form of censorship and it should not be tolerated in a country committed to democratic values," he added.
Sponsoring terrorists also should not be tolerated in a country committed to both democratic values and to its survival ...
The ACLU sued the US government in 2006 on behalf of the American Academy of Religion, the American Association of University Professors and PEN American Center -- all of which had invited Ramadan as a guest speaker. "The ideological exclusion of scholars like Tariq Ramadan impoverishes political and academic debate inside the United States and violates the (US Constitution's) First Amendment rights of those who seek to meet with foreign scholars, hear their views, and engage them in debate," Jaffer said.
There is no first amendment right to meet and associate with terrorist enablers, particularly foreign ones.
The ACLU on Thursday repeated the arguments it made when it first filed its lawsuit against Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. "Although the so-called ideological exclusion provision is ostensibly aimed at those who 'endorse terrorism,' its terms are vague and subject to political manipulation," said Arthur Eisenberg, legal director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.
Its terms are broad enough to ensure we keep people like Ramadan out of the country, an entirely appropriate response.
"Professor Ramadan's small humanitarian donations were completely permissible at the time he made them, and he had no reason to know that the charity was supporting Hamas, if indeed it was," said Melissa Goodman, a staff attorney with the ACLU's National Security Project.
He was just donating to the Widows Ammunition Fund, completely chartiable. Why he could have written it off his taxes, assuming he'd ever pay taxes ...
A controversial intellectual, Ramadan is the grandson of Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist political and social movement founded in Egypt in the 1920s. He lives in Geneva and teaches at Britain's Oxford University.
Lovely whitewash. The Muslim Brotherhood is, as all RBers know, a terrorist organization dedicated to tearing down all the Arab governments, replacing them with a caliphate, implementing sharia law, and then extending the caliphate to 'recover' all the lands ever lost by, visited by, or coveted by Muslims.
Posted by:tipper

#11  Oops, left out these two maggots:

37. Sheikh Abu Yahya al-Libi (al Qaeda CEO)
38. Sheikh Abdel-Aziz Al al-Sheikh — Saudi Grand Mufti
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-26 18:40  

#10  Tariq Ramadan is near the head of my Terrorist Top 40 Hitjob Parade™. 'Nuff said.

1. Ayman al-Zawahiri
2. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
3. Ayatolla Kahmeini
4. Mullah Muhammad Omar
5. Abu Bakar Ba'asyir (Bashir)
6. Moqtada Sadr,
7. Abu Hamza al-Masri,
8. Mullah Krekar (AKA: Abu Sayyid Qutb),
9. Khaled Meshal
10. Sheikh Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah
11. Ismail Haniya
12. Mohammed Abbas
13. Yusuf al-Qaradawi
14. Tariq Ramadan
15. Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali
16. imam Omar Bakri Mohammed
17. imam Abdel-Samie Mahmoud Ibrahim Moussa
18. imam Sheikh SyeSyed Mubarik Ali Gilani
19. Sheikh Abdullah al-Faisal
20. Sheik Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi
21. Dr. Mahmoud al-Zahar
22. Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-Aziz
23. Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz
24. Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz
25. Muhammad Taqi Usmani
26. Yasin al Qadi (Saudi terrorist financier)
27. Imad Mugniyah, — Iranian master terrorist
28. Sheikh Abdullah bin Jibreen — top Wahabbi cleric
29. Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan — top Wahabbi cleric
30. Sheikh Nasser Al-Omar — top Wahabbi cleric
31. Sheikh Essa
32. Abu Waleed Ansari
33. Abu Yahya al-Libbi
34. Maulana Ilyas Kashmiri
35. Ahmed Abu Laban — DEAD — January 19, 2007
36. Sheikh Ibrahim Al-Ghaith — head SA’s Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice.

Worst of all, out of the three dozen individuals on my list, only Ahmed Abu Laban of cartoonifada fame has taken the dirt nap and that was from cancer instead of lead poisoning like it needed to be.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-26 18:36  

#9  Â“Â…and violates the (US Constitution's) First Amendment rights…”

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time. (It's right there in the constitution...look it up Professor Ramadan.)
Posted by: DepotGuy   2007-10-26 18:15  

#8  "Ideological exclusion is a form of censorship and it should not be tolerated in a country committed to democratic values".

However, ideological exclusion *is* an integral part of Islam. So give us a one of your knives so we can cut you with it.

"Your laws grant us the freedom to overthrow your nation and put our laws in place of yours."
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-10-26 14:20  

#7  Crusader: Sure, he's an intellectual, the same way that David Duke is. If y'all haven't read Paul Berman's epic article on Ramadan & his family's long dynastic relationship with Islamism, well, you're screwed, because TNR has blown up its archives and it isn't available right now. But here's the first page, cached.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2007-10-26 13:40  

#6  If there is such a crush of those wishing to "... seek to meet with foreign scholars, hear their views, and engage them in debate," let them get their fat asses on a plane and go to him.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2007-10-26 13:38  

#5  How does the ACLU have standing here? Not only is a visa not a 'civil right', but the guy is not even an American.
Posted by: SteveS   2007-10-26 10:24  

#4  was forced to turn down a tenured position at the University of Notre Dame when the US government revoked his visa in late 2004 on the basis of the so-called "ideological exclusion" provision of the Patriot Act.


I'd be really pissed too if I missed out on that gravy train...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-10-26 10:00  

#3  "Muslim intellectual" eh? *laughs* That's a good one!
Posted by: Crusader   2007-10-26 09:51  

#2  How is getting a visa a 'civil RIGHT'? More of a civil privilege, sez I.
Posted by: eLarson   2007-10-26 09:17  

#1  let him teleconference, AssholesCLU
Posted by: Frank G   2007-10-26 08:48  

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