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India-Pakistan
US agrees not to use UN, USAID logos in FATA
2007-11-13
PESHAWAR: Washington has agreed to Islamabad’s request of not using the United States Agency for International Development logo or name in the USAID-funded projects in the Tribal Areas, official sources said on Monday. “The USAID or UN name or logo will not be used in development projects in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA),” sources in the FATA Civil Secretariat told Daily Times on the condition of anonymity. Mentioning the names of UN or USAID would make tribal people believe that a project was taking place with the help of US money and it would derail the whole project, they said.
I've got a great idea! How about if we never, ever, under any circumstances give those ingrates any money at all, for anything? That way they'll never have to look at a U.S. symbol on something we buy them.
Strong anti-US feelings swept across seven tribal districts along the Afghanistan border since the US ousted the Taliban regime in Kabul weeks after terrorist attacked Washington and New York in September 2001.
No skin off my fore. They need the money, they don't like us.Maybe somebody they like will give them money.
The US will spent $300 million on various projects, including dams, roads, schools and hospitals, in seven tribal districts.
I have no idea why.
Pakistan and the US have agreed that 25 percent of the amount would be spent through local non-government organisations, and government departments would spend the rest of it, according to the sources.

Pakistan disagrees: Earlier, Pakistan disagreed with a US plan of winning the hearts and minds of tribal people like it has been doing in Afghanistan. “We disagreed with the US, which wanted to repeat Afghanistan’s model in Pakistan,” FATA Development Authority Chief Executive Saleem Mohmand told Daily Times. He said allowing the US to execute the “hearts and minds strategy” would have undermined Islamabad’s presence in the Tribal Areas. “Pakistan is not Afghanistan where the state writ is only limited to key cities,” he said.
"Pakistain is a distinct country, where the state writ is totally ineffective everywhere!"
Check and balance: Regarding USAID officialsÂ’ fears that 25 percent of the money might reach the hands of Al Qaeda or the Taliban if no proper check and balance system was enforced, Saleem said a strong accountability system would ensure that funds didnÂ’t land in the wrong hands.
"What kind of accountability system?"
"Oh, a strong one! Very strong!"
He said the people of Tribal Areas had changed their mindset and that they were no more “allergic” to the word development, which they had perceived as “an attack on their autonomy and freedom” three decades ago. “Now they ask the government to develop their areas. This is a remarkable change,” he said.
Posted by:john frum

#10  WAFF.com > US HAS CONTINGENCY PLANS TO SAFEGUARD PAKISTAN'S NUCLEAR ARSENAL. Problem for US - Pakis nukes are widely dispersed around the country + heavily protected/overwatched by [highly politicized/partisan] army units = "You've got the $$$ we've got the Bomb(s), Security" local Warlords. *And then there's GEOPOLITICS - read, RUSSIA-CHINA not wanting strong US presence in CENASIA from any reason.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-13 21:40  

#9  Thanks John. More evidence that Perv is doing absolutely nothing about the animals in the tribal regions and just beating up / detaining / killing the moderates. Where do we go from here? Up doesn't look likely.
Posted by: remoteman   2007-11-13 19:06  

#8  meanwhile in Islamabad...















Posted by: john frum   2007-11-13 17:48  

#7  I can see why they don't want the UN and USAID logos used: you have the classis bad cop / bad cop routine going on and will be unable to differentiate between the two. ( sarc intended)
but if we can't ID as a US project, then let them eat poppy seeds.
Posted by: USN,Ret.   2007-11-13 13:58  

#6  The Pak tribal provinces are probably the most foriegn regions on earth. By foriegn I mean alien to modern civilization. There is no way these people, as backward as they are and as subsumed by islam as they are, will be able integrate with modern society. It is far more likely that they will be a constant irritant and source of conflict for the modern world.

This means we have to deal with them with overwhelming force and not try to use a hearts and minds strategy. This is an area where saturation bombing needs to be implemented. They need to understand that the west will not accept their violent backwardness and that if they continue on the current path that they will be exterminated.
Posted by: remoteman   2007-11-13 13:15  

#5  How about if we never, ever, under any circumstances give those ingrates any money at all, for anything?

The hatred engendered by US charity is second only to the hatred engendered by the lack of US charity.

I knew some people like that. They had a rich relative. If he sent an expensive Christmas present, they were indignant that he was showing off, rubbing their noses in their poverty. If he sent them something simple, they fumed that a rich man ought be more generous.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2007-11-13 11:49  

#4  Of course we could put the Paki government's name on flour and make sure estrogen is mixed in....

It would make for some interesting lions of islam.
Posted by: 3dc   2007-11-13 10:47  

#3  Regarding USAID officialsÂ’ fears that 25 percent of the money might reach the hands of Al Qaeda or the Taliban if no proper check and balance system was enforced, Saleem said a strong accountability system would ensure that funds didnÂ’t land in the wrong hands.

And if you can't trust a Federally Administered Tribal Areas Pakistani bureaucrat, who can you trust...
I still favor my aid plan, which will be delivered in 500 lb. laser guided increments.
Posted by: tu3031   2007-11-13 10:06  

#2  No Doubt it will be re-labeled as coming from the heart and generosity of the local murderer/dictator. Much like in North Korea.

I say f-kem and don't give them a dime.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2007-11-13 01:26  

#1  No money if not our way.
Posted by: 3dc   2007-11-13 01:07  

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