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Afghanistan
RISE OF THE NEO-TALIBAN, Part 2'Pain has become the remedy'
2007-11-14
Read the whole thing, here's a part:
"In 2003, a gathering in Muredkey [the LeT's Pakistani headquarters] was an eye-opener to sincere jihadis. Hafiz Mohammed Saeed [chief of the LeT] introduced us to one Abdullah, a person wearing a prayer cap and a small beard. Many among us knew he was the head of the ISI's Kashmir cell.

"He addressed the gathering and made the point that the Kashmiri jihad could not achieve its objectives and that it was a lame duck. He advised the mujahideen to sit quietly at home until new circumstances developed. This sort of advice turned people into our camp, but the real revolution came because of al-Qaeda," Sadiq said.

"[Senior al-Qaeda leader] Abu Marwan al-Suri was killed [in May 2006] by the Khasadar force in Bajaur Agency. This is a force of peons. Had Marwan been killed by any elite commando force of the Pakistani army, we would not have been so saddened, but for a person like him to be killed by a third-rate force like the Khasadars, it was bad.
I looked in the archives to see if Rantburg covered Mr. al-Suri's demise. We did.
"He was traveling in bus when he was identified as an Arab and was asked to descend. He took out his revolver and warned the Khasadars that he was a mujahid and did not want to kill any Muslims, so they should let him go. The Khasadars did not listen to him. You know Arabs, they do not escape - they fight until their last - but he tried to flee to avoid fighting Muslims, and was killed.

"His body was photographed and the pictures were presented to the Americans with pride and the people responsible received medals. Every mujahid felt humiliated. Brother ... our blood is not so cheap to be played around with by any third-rate person. Mujahideen were full of rage. They rose from their hideouts.
Yep.
"Marwan's body became an inspiration. The aroma from his blood was a legend in Bajaur and his graveyard became a holy site. Reaction swept through Bajaur and in a matter of days the Khasadars' posts were wiped out and blown up. The army came to conduct operations, but was defeated. Our victories gathered all tribes around us. You know our biggest commander in Bajaur, Maulana Faqir Muhammad, was trained by the Pakistani army to resist the Soviets [in the 1980s] but after September 11 his brother was detained by the army. He was beaten to death.

"In 2005 the Taliban were limited to South Waziristan and North Waziristan and in Mohmand Agency there were only a few dozen of them, but now we number 18,000, thanks to the operations of the Pakistani army," Sadiq said, his face full of emotion.

"You asked me what makes us think we can establish an Islamic emirate," Sadiq said, and then recited famous Urdu and Persian poet Mirza Asadullah Baig Khan, who went under the pen name of Ghalib: "Pain has crossed its limits and has become the remedy."
Posted by:3dc

#9  Compare to RISE OF THE NEO-SOVIET, in both post-USSR RUSSIA + SSSSSSHHHHHHHHH US-WEST, ala RUSSOPHOBE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-14 20:41  

#8  There are far too many circumstances where we still insist on fighting these scumbags "Queensbury Rules." Pershing understood this in his fight with the Moros, and at a critical juncture, presented them with his combined execution-burial in a pit with pigs. This just fractured the will of the enemy forces.

We do not have to be so overt and blunt, however. With some clever use of psyops, we could be ravaging enemy morale, and totally kill off their recruitment.

For example, they are very prone to superstition, so we start a rumor among them that ghostly "dogs from Hell" are appearing during the night to tear apart Jihadis and take their souls to Hell, for some undefined transgression. All that remains are torn up body parts.

We could do all sorts of other things, like spreading around "magical amulets" that make them impervious to NATO bullets, protect them from demons, and also give off electronic signatures in response to a strong RF signal at a particular frequency.

We could be using so many of these tricks that by now they wouldn't know whether to poop or go blind.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-11-14 08:38  

#7  3dc, what do YOU think would happen to their 'civilization' if they used a nuke against America? There'd be a whole lot of dead Americans, and the survivors-in-charge would be trying (and likely 'succeeding') to figure out what we said to make them do it. And if the Taliban leadership would grant permission, we might send a few FBI guys over to investigate who pushed the button - but they probably were atomized in the blast, so there won't be anybody to catch and punish.
Posted by: Glenmore   2007-11-14 07:22  

#6  So I launched a series of questions. "It is still not clear who is in whose command. What is the command of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar [leader of the Hezb-i-Islami]? Is [veteran Afghan resistance figure] Jalaluddin Haqqani under [Taliban leader] Mullah Omar, or is he commanding separately? Who do the Pakistan Taliban answer to? To Mullah Omar? And what are Pakistani jihadis up to?

Sadiq smiled at the barrage of questions and responded with some breaking news, "Mullah Omar, the Taliban shura [council], al-Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban have resolved this issue once and for all. Soon the mujahideen will announce the revival of a [region-wide] Islamic emirate, and after this - like all fighting groups gathered under a single command in Iraq - all commanders in Afghanistan will fall under the umbrella of the Islamic emirate.
Posted by: Albemarle Cleaque8456   2007-11-14 05:47  

#5  If you want to target Pak terrorists, plant some lawyers among them. They are #1 on Mushy's target list; jihadis are about #56.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-11-14 04:08  

#4  This part bothers me a lot
After a long pause, he continued, "You know, the Taliban are blamed for all the problems, but in actual fact it is America which will never allow a ceasefire between the Pakistani army and the mujahideen. The Americans will force the Pakistani army to fight against us and therefore this battle will continue," Sadiq said.

"Man, you are fighting against the army and blaming America," I taunted him.

"I will tell you why. The Americans know exactly how near we are to Islamabad and they are aware of defections in the Pakistani army, and they are also aware that only one or two defections at the level of colonel will mean that the mujahideen will get their hands on some batteries of missiles which can carry nuclear warheads.

"And they [Americans] know the moment the mujahideen get that, the game will turn in favor of the mujahideen both in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and then nobody will be able to stop our march. So the Americans want a big battle between the army and the mujahideen so that the end game will be that they can step in and destroy Pakistan's nukes under the pretext that the Pakistani army cannot protect them from the mujahideen," Sadiq said.


The retards don't understand what will happen to their whole civilization if they use a nuke against us.....
Posted by: 3dc   2007-11-14 02:47  

#3  Scusi. Khasadars in the News.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-11-14 02:16  

#2  I also took a look at the Khasadars in the News. They've taken a bit of a beating.

It looks like they were the local coppe shoppe before their Arab ubermenschen muscled their way in.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-11-14 02:14  

#1  Something is odd here.

If this article is right, then Abu Marwan Hadid al-Suri designated himself a martyr and named an al-Q brigade after himself a month before he was killed.

And accounts of his death vary. Most say that he was shot by Pakis, but this report indicates he may have killed himself "to prevent being captured" or more heroically "to avoid killing fellow Muslims" (I presume to help his legend grow).

If he did 'martyr' himself deliberately, it seems he set up the dominos long before he stepped off that bus and went out in a blaze of glory.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-11-14 02:10  

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