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Iraq
Iron Hammer successful in pursuit of al-Qaeda in Iraq
2007-11-19
Iraqi Security Forces and Multi-National Division - North Soldiers have made significant progress against al-Qaeda in four provinces in northern Iraq after two weeks of Operation Iron Hammer.

The operation to disrupt al-Qaeda involves three U.S. brigade combat teams and four Iraqi Army divisions. During the operation, Coalition Forces and ISF have undermined al-Qaeda operations and discovered more than 50 caches across the Multi-National Division-North area of operations. The caches have contained more than 500 mortar and artillery rounds, three tons of homemade explosives, countless IED-making materials, hundreds of anti-tank and personnel mines and more than 100 machine guns. Beyond the weapons found, CF and ISF discovered various documents and related information material.

CF and ISF have also detained hundreds of suspected al-Qaeda members. ISF are reporting Iraqi citizens feel more confident and secure. "Every day the streets of Mosul are becoming more vibrant with shop keepers, as we provide increased security for the Iraqi people," said Brig. Gen. Moutaa Habeeb Jassim Jewab, commander of 2nd Iraqi Army Division, whose division was among those involved in the operation.
Posted by:Fred

#5  "It takes a willingness to bomb other shiites, and when push comes to shove I don't think they're going to do that."

American Lutherans had no problem bombing the living pee out of German Lutherans in 1945. Why do you assume that just because two people are the same religion that they won't shoot each other?

Shiites shoot shiites every day in Southern Iraq.
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-19 17:38  

#4  The Iraqis should have been able to mop the floor with Iran back in the Iran-Iraq war days. Their equipment was far better, their forces were better trained, their logistics weren't as totally screwed up as Iran's.
Posted by: mhw   2007-11-19 17:32  

#3  It takes a willingness to bomb other shiites, and when push comes to shove I don't think they're going to do that.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2007-11-19 16:13  

#2  It takes more than planes and pilots to make a [modern] combat air force. It takes modern infrastructure, logistics, CCCI, training, maintenance, weapons and ordinance technology, security, safety, fuel management, etc. Then you need defensive systems that are married up to your combat and air defense posture. I am not sure we can invest in that at the same time we are trying to bring their ground forces up to par. That will come but with smaller support systems (helicopters, tactical ground support, transport and air defense) and I doubt we will ever give them long-range bomb and missle launch platforms.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-11-19 13:21  

#1  It is important to remember that right now, the Iraqi army is the second most combat experienced ground military on the planet. And if the government of Iraq diverted its oil revenues to buying advanced weaponry for even a few months, if they got into a fight, Iraq would probably clean Iran's clock.

I think this is one of the reasons we are very hesitant in equipping them with a combat air force.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-11-19 11:49  

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