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| USS Kitty Hawk, denied entrance to Hong Kong, transits Strait of Taiwan on way home |
| 2007-11-30 |
| WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. aircraft carrier group sailed through the tense waters between China and Taiwan after it was denied entry last week to a Hong Kong port, the U.S. Navy said on Thursday. An appropriate response to the vulgar insult from the Chinese. Lacks originality, though. The USS Kitty Hawk and eight accompanying ships passed through the Taiwan Strait, seen as one of Asia's most dangerous flash points, on their way back to Japan after China barred the carrier group from entering the Hong Kong harbor for a long-planned visit, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Command in Hawaii said. "USS Kitty Hawk carrier strike group has transited the Taiwan Strait," Navy spokesman Shane Tuck said. "This was a normal navigational transit of international waters, and the route selection was based on operational necessity, including adverse weather." "Operational necessity meaning we have to show the Commies we're not some cruise ship trying to dock wherever it's sunny." China has claimed sovereignty over Taiwan since their split in 1949 when Mao Zedong's Communists drove Chiang Kai-shek's defeated Nationalists to the island. Tensions between the two countries have played out in the strait several times since then, most recently when China conducted military exercises there in 1995 and 1996, prompting the United States to send warships there. There has been speculation that China's move to block the Kitty Hawk and the other ships was related to irritation over U.S. plans to help Taiwan upgrade its missile system and a meeting between Bush and the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader. SHITTY KITTY SHITTY KITTY Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi has told President George W. Bush that the incident is a misunderstanding, according to the White House, but a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman denied that account on Thursday. Talking out of both sides of their mouth - very Chinese. Everyone who's followed this incident, remember it. You will see it repeated again and again in the years to come. |
| Posted by:gromky |
| #12 I know, I know, I know. Sadly. The External threat[s] is[are] clear [tabulate and compile all the D##I##A and other data]. ... But what about the internal threat? Titan Rain proved some things.. but what if some US Politicians really, really have a hard-on for China, and do not care if China acquires the .mil advantage?? Maybe, just maybe, if WW-III [real WW-III, not the imagined WW3, sorry Newt] breaks out, all hell breaks loose and Conus is under massive [poss N] missile attack from China, would those Lefty Pols. get a 1st class flight to Beijing?? I think most pro-Chicom, Manchurian Candidates kinda-people will accept that. If caught red-handed and security forces were underway to capture some of these treasonous, pro-Chinese, domestic politicians before the Chinese missiles were hitting their targets, would we have the capability to "round up" every single pro-China politician? . If caught "red-handed", they just might try to book a flight to China. Sadly, the US has just about zero screening procedures as to who is PRO-China, and who is ANTI-China. The PRO-China forces will evade radar, every single time, as "they" are part of the system, as worms infect. So much for the System. If the US loses in a massive nuclear and also conventional exchange with China, some will be like "Benedict Arnold" and easily walk way from the US.. Reminds me of the Dellums memo RE Cuba. Allegedly, the so-called Hon. Dell. sent the draft to Castro for rev. before it was sent back for his sig. Unreal. Also, I revisit the Panama Canal Fiasco. The Panama Canal belongs to the US, exclusively. Even if we need to re-take it with a massed airborne, and/or, other combined forms of attack. Once again, the internal subversion to US interests in that case, goes back to Carter and then finalized by Clinton. Rattlesnakes, them all. Castro. Ortega. PLAN. FARC. etc We live in a "Dangerous World" and, yet, we all need to keep a keen eye o all the REAL threats, and form policies and Contingency Plans to deal with each and every threat. Our real Constitutional Liberties and Freedoms are always at stake. Never-ending. Hopefully, the Republic that we are ALL sworn to protect and defend, will stand, despite the ignorance of the civilian electorate about all of these matters, most are generally, unread. May God Bless all of the US Marines, The US Army, the US Navy and the US Air Force [not necessarily in that order]. May God Protect and Defend and Help all of those who are in "Harm's Way" risking "Life" and "Limb" [quite literally, particularly with respect to the IEds]. May God Be with the Doctors and the Nurses, at this time, for obvious reasons. War creates very serious carnage. Of course, few care to know about that. War is to be taken seriously. If we get into, shall we say, a "scrap" with China, then we must detroy China in a few days, and leave nothing left. IF we play monkey games with China and let slip the "dogs of war", hopefully, the US will destroy China in about three days. If China takes out just one carrier, then I say, let the entire country of China go back 5,000-10,000 years+. Just One US Sailor is worth 200 million+ Chinese. Bring it on China, let's see where you go. Atheists, your Communist Nation. God will Judge China, VERY HARSHLY. |
| Posted by: OperationWalkabout 2007-11-30 23:59 |
| #11 And yet, still, there are very well-paid China-defenders in the US Political Establishment. Fixed that for ya, OW. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-11-30 22:51 |
| #10 "have not been" [sarc.....] |
| Posted by: OperationWalkabout 2007-11-30 21:49 |
| #9 Has anyone noticed the disturbing habit of Chinese submarine forces being in places where they should not be? Japanese littoral waters, tailing the USS Kitty Hawk, etc. ? Has anyone wondered why they keep building up their missile forces directly across TW? What are they at now, 900? More? +/- [estimates are always off somewhat]. Of course, the Chicoms have not been invading Conus, hell bent on pilfering tech. The US has been totally asleep for several decades. And yet, still, there are China-defenders in the US Political Establishment. |
| Posted by: OperationWalkabout 2007-11-30 21:46 |
| #8 to see, not too se. Duh. |
| Posted by: OperationWalkabout 2007-11-30 21:41 |
| #7 Spot on. Good too see that someone is paying attention. China has always been a threat since Mao. The Chinese are a threat, yet their game PLAN [pun intended] is longer-term than the average attention span of the average Westerner. Keep watching China. Keep watching their every single move. Word to the wise. |
| Posted by: OperationWalkabout 2007-11-30 21:40 |
| #6 FREEREPUBLIC > JAPAN REFUSAL ADDS TO US-CHINA NAVAL SPAT. Japan = Pentagon has turned down request for visiting Chin sailors to visit an advanced AEGIS destroyer; + REUTERS > CHINA TURNS DOWN ANOTHER US SHIP. USS REUBEN JAMES, + on 11/22 China had barred a US C-17 flight from landing in supply suppor of local US Consulate mission. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2007-11-30 18:58 |
| #5 Glad to see the notion of an Olympic boycott gaining traction. Yes, I feel for all the American athletes that would miss out but the time is now to jam a stick in China's spokes. A boycott could not be interpreted as anything but a well-deserved and swift kick in the crotch for China's Mandarins. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-11-30 16:29 |
| #4 Oh, no, Ebbang Uluque6305. The time to declare a boycott is in the last few weeks before, perhaps a day or two before, and then send have our ambassador call on Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi to transmit President Bush's announcement that it was a misunderstanding on the day before the closing ceremony. President Bush should be entirely to busy supervising the pounding of Iran, or perhaps on a state visit to Afghanistan, to communicate the same to whoever is putatively running China these days. ;-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-11-30 16:26 |
| #3 Time to declare a formal boycott of the Beijing Olympics. I'm so sick of these bastards. The Chinese communist government is an illegitimate curse on China. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-11-30 16:00 |
| #2 Good move. A nice military poke in China's eye exactly when called for. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-11-30 13:06 |
| #1 There has been speculation that China's move to block the Kitty Hawk and the other ships was related to irritation over U.S. plans to help Taiwan upgrade its missile system and a meeting between Bush and the Dalai Lama Other speculation is that the Kitty Battle Group was there at the same time the PLAN Southern and Eastern Fleets were in port, and that the two fleets had just concluded exercises simulating a blockade of Taiwan. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2007-11-30 10:44 |