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Iraq
Marne Thunderbolt Finds Weapons Caches
2008-02-13
No mention this time on how they were found - local tips or what?
BAGHDAD – Soldiers from 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division found 3,000 pounds of munitions Feb. 6, collectively the largest find since the start of Operation Marne Thunderbolt Jan. 1. Both the 5th Squadron, 7th Cavalry Regiment and 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment are conducting ongoing operations in southern Arab Jabour in support of Marne Thunderbolt.

Company C, 1-30th Inf. Regt. discovered 12 55-gallon barrels of homemade explosives.
Either the drums weren't full, or the explosives were very light weight, or someone can't do math - even if the whole 3000 pounds were in these drums that's only half the weight of water. And why 'homemade' explosives? Can't be nearly as good as military stuff, which is supposedly everywhere - have the militias and Sunni watch groups etc. managed to get control of most all of Saddam's old stuff so AQI is forced to scrounge and improvise?
Company B, 1-30th Inf. Regt. found a pressure-plate improvised explosive device consisting of three 122 mm rounds and one mine of unknown origin. Another find yielded a cache of two mines, one 57 mm projectile, one jar of HME, one artillery shell filled with HME and one 155 mm artillery round.

“We try to find out how long the munitions have been there,” said Maj. James Wilburn, from Las Cruces, N.M., chief of daytime operations, 2nd BCT, 3rd Inf. Div. “It may indicate whether there was a cell operating there recently, or if the weapons were abandoned long ago. It gives a sense of what our troops may be up against.”

Soldiers from Company A, 5-7th Cav. Regt. discovered an anti-aircraft gun, completely operational, with an extra barrel.
Good find. Makes you wonder why we haven't lost more helicopters - maybe AQI has been afraid to try because everytime they uncover a big gun the crew immediately gets UAV-zapped.

Company B, 5-7th Cav. Regt. Soldiers found 45 cans of DSHKA rounds, one DSHKA barrel, 20 rockets, two 120 mm rounds, 90 rocket-propelled grenade rounds, 20 RPG fuses, 130 charges and four hand grenades. In a smaller find the same day, they located a cache of three 120 mm rockets.

The items found reveal a history of al-Qaeda in Iraq’s presence in the area. “The stuff they are finding is largely inoperable,” Wilburn said. “Even though they are degraded or worn out, it is an indication that an anti-aircraft cell may have been operating in the area at one time.”
Posted by:Glenmore

#3  another idea...

You can bury a 55gal drum and hide stuff in it. then you only need to uncover the top and lift our your goodies at a later time. in that kind of scenario, you would definitely not have it completely full, but would have containers, sacks, and boxes of stuff in there with a fair bit of empty space...
Posted by: Abu do you love   2008-02-13 18:00  

#2  I would have supposed that the homemade explosives would be something like ANFO which is substantially lighter than water...

of course as pointed out by crosspatch logistics of moving the stuff would keep you from overfilling.

if you had a tight lid, and the stuff was stable (big if for homemade boom boom)you could lay the barrels on their side and roll them.

Posted by: Abu do you love   2008-02-13 17:56  

#1  Not likely full. Since they aren't going to have forklifts handy to move those around, they probably are no heavier than two people can lift and carry in a hurry. 55gal of water is close to 450lbs. No two men are going to be carrying that by hand anywhere in a hurry.
Posted by: crosspatch   2008-02-13 14:48  

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