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Home Front: Politix
"Stop, children, what's that sound?" -- Moonbats threaten trouble in Denver
2008-03-07
Jim Geraghty, National Review

I tend to think that the Internet, and the anonymity of e-mail, has made it easier for people to pose as tough guys, to offer a lot of big talk, to metaphorically pound their chest, to attempt to intimidate and make threats they would never dare to speak face to face.

Over at the Huffington Post, one of their contributors is trying to determine how seriously to take threats of violence at the Democratic Convention in Denver this summer.
There's something happening here
And what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a blog over there
Telling me that I've got to beware

The messages include:

Rick, if the Machine tries to give the Clintons the victory at the convention, I swear to God, [1968] Chicago's going to look like a Sadie Hawkins dance. People my age are going to be throwing stones. We all have transportation — cell phones — disposable income — the Internet — free time — and Seattle as our example. Part of me is scared of a riot. Part of me isn't. The nomination belongs to Obama. Do you think we're going to let the Democratic Leadership Council take it? "God gave Noah the rainbow sign. No more water, fire next time."

There's battle lines being drawn
And nobody's right, if everybody's wrong

Also:

Not to mention that there's going to be a significant Iraq veteran contingent at the convention, ready to rock 'n' roll. We've already had planning meetings about it — we're going about it the same way that we would plan any decent military operation.

What a field day for the Heat
A thousand people in the street


And:

I can't emphasize enough how potentially scary things could get — we've got folks working on the inside of the convention, and it's all done on a cell basis, so that folks only know what they need to know.

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step outta line, the Man come, and take you away


In the HuffPo comments section, a lot of people denouncing this talk, but also comments like:

"I'd rather have violence in the convention center in Denver — hell, I'd rather have Armageddon — than a bunch of corrupt pols overturning the will of the voters and handing the nomination to a candidate whose comeback has rested solely on negative ads and ugly politicking."

"Violence is the only refuge against the people who refuse to let go of power."

"American civic life was founded in violence. Jefferson openly advocated revolution every few generations to ensure that government responsive to the needs of the people. If the Party defies the will of the people, it should reap what it sows."

This could just be more look-how-tough-I-sound boasting. On the other hand, after yesterday's Times Square bombing, and the reports that it was tied to rambling anti-war messages sent to members of Congress... maybe threats of violence ought to be taken more seriously.
Posted by:Mike

#13  I hope the Denver cops do stand back and let the Clinton and Obama gangs beat the hell out of each other. I want to see some serious red-on-red violence done. It's like Hamas and Fatah killing each other; the only problem is that they never kill enough.

Every Clintonista or Obamanaut that gets offed in internecine warfare should be one less voter at the polls. Of course, knowing the Dem penchant for voting the cemeteries, it will probably mean only one less thug out there destroying Republican offices and property, not one less vote.

I hope they rip themselves apart to the point where it will take two generations to put them back together. If half of these lefty losers sit out the election, McCain's a done deal. And while that's not a great state of affairs by any means, it's a LOT better than the Dem alternative.
Posted by: Pancho Elmeck8414   2008-03-07 19:36  

#12  Bring it on!
Posted by: JohnQC   2008-03-07 19:28  

#11  Crowd control techniques have come a long way since 9/11 kids, let alone 1968. Anarchy is a better story told than broadcast live in front of Shepard Smith.
Posted by: Capsu78   2008-03-07 18:50  

#10  slapped down or not, there could be no worse publicity for the democrats than a big fracas outside the convention center.
Posted by: sdadf   2008-03-07 18:47  

#9  Denver has done a great job re-building its city recently - Colfax is a lot different I am told than it was 10 years ago. I would guess/hope that anything outside of a "controlled burn" would be frowned upon - but of course it was up to the tax payers to spend the money on the extra police, right?

I think the DNC deal is a lot like the Olympics - everyone wants to host it until it shows up in town.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-03-07 18:40  

#8  And if you think the Denver cops are gentle...

Every protest or rowdy behavior I have seen in Denver, the cops just hung off to the side and watched. Maybe it was orders not to actually do their job and police, maybe they are too PC.

I hope you are right OS. I would love to see the protesters slapped down when they turn to rioters, but I ain't holding my breath.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-03-07 15:10  

#7  I think they'll be disappointed if they don't get their skulls cracked. I had a few professors in college, and some other people I knew that were (or said they were) in Chicago in 68. They talked about it like it was friggin Omaha Beach...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-03-07 14:02  

#6  I wish them a speedy healing from the wounds they will incur. Some of the National Guard here will be getting back from Iraq just before that, special forces troops. And some of them are Denver SWAT.

And if you think the Denver cops are gentle, need I remind you of their treatment of rowdy fans at the CU/CSU game a few years ago? Batons and CS. And lots of arrests.

This ain't Seattle. They want Chicago? They'll get Chicago. Or worse.

These little anarchists need some education in the self defense laws around here.

Like the "Home is my Castle" law - meaning folks living in downtown can use deadly force to defend themselves and their property.

And there is no legal requirement for "back to the wall".

I guess I'm finally getting my carry permit here in Colorado. Cannot use my Florida and Georgia and Utah ones any linger.

Posted by: OldSpook   2008-03-07 13:54  

#5   "transportation — cell phones — disposable income — the Internet — free time — and Seattle"

Maybe not if their parents put their foot down.

(of course they won't)
Posted by: Kelly   2008-03-07 13:38  

#4  The Denver cops are like Berkley's. Some surrounding cities are better than others... but Denver is a sanctuary city after all, so you can pretty much glean what will happen. The cops will stand off to the side and let things happen, until the protesters try to get in and disrupt their political masters. THEN they will break heads, but not until.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-03-07 13:19  

#3  Too bad granny and gramps didn't have "transportation — cell phones — disposable income — the Internet — free time — and Seattle" as their example. Like Abbie Hoffmann would've been, like, president, man! And we'd all have our own dope farms and, like, if we didn't, the government would, like, mail it to us, man. Like, that's all the government would exist for, man, to send us fresh primo dope!
Wow. Nice 60's wet dream, boys and girls.
What kinda rep do the Denver cops have for putting up with this shit?
Posted by: tu3031   2008-03-07 12:59  

#2  I seem to remember there being plans for a '68 about a month ago when the d-race was still undecided.

So this is the politics of 'change and hope'? - I'm no b.o. fan but if I were in charge of his campaign I would be shaking my head in disgust about this nihilism.

Great inline, a song older than what the potential 'anarchists' will be. Sad, very sad.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-03-07 12:40  

#1  Denver is gonna get real ugly around convention time. Remind me not to drive through it that week.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-03-07 12:36  

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