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'Islam lessons needed in German schools'
2008-03-14
A conference aimed at easing tensions with Germany’s 3.4 million Muslims began in Berlin on Thursday with the interior minister calling for schoolchildren to learn more about Islam. “We are tackling hate preachers with all possible methods. With religious studies about Islam we are giving them some competition, so to speak,” Wolfgang Schaeuble told the daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung’s online edition.
Any requirement that the Muslim kids learn anything about Martin Luther?
“Because if we send children to religious education in state schools, this will be different from religious practice in mosques,” the conservative minister said. At present the content of lessons about religion is worked out by schools in coordination with religious officials, but at present only with Christian and Jewish ones — something which Schaeuble said he planned to rectify..

Bekir Alboga, head of a German Muslim council, said that children should be taught about Islam throughout the country and criticised the lack of teachers qualified to do so. “This is a failure in Germany — a failure of the state,” Alboga told the regional Ruhr Nachrichten daily.

The comments came as the German government on Thursday held the third in a series of meetings on improving relations with the Muslim community, the vast majority of whom are of Turkish origin. The conference was expected to be marked by tensions between the various Islamic groups attending over a proposed joint statement stressing that Muslims living in Germany should adhere to the countryÂ’s laws and basic values.

A recent official study showing one in seven Muslims in Germany — and one in four among young Muslims — has a radical political outlook, although 90 percent oppose terrorism.
Posted by:Fred

#8  Troll cleanup please.
Posted by: JFM   2008-03-14 18:27  

#7  the nazis supported the middle estern countries in WW2 and now it's biting them in the ass, seems they should have directed the holocaust at that group instead of the jews, and yes i did say that they should have let Milosevic finish what he started too
Posted by: sinse   2008-03-14 17:12  

#6  I am all for iot. Withe Rantburgian-like teachers basing on the very own text of the Koran and of Muhammad's life.

First resistants were people who had read Mein Kampf. I know of French resve naval officer who came close to be killed (and lost many comaredes) when the battleship Bretagne was sunk by the British at Mers el Kebir (July 3, 1940). Despite this, just a few hours later he was wishing for a British victory and later spying for them (his condition of victim of Mers el Kebir placed him above every suspicion). Such was the magical effect of reading Mein Kampf.
Posted by: JFM   2008-03-14 12:03  

#5  The conference was expected to be marked by tensions between the various Islamic groups attending over a proposed joint statement stressing that Muslims living in Germany should adhere to the countryÂ’s laws and basic values.

Sounds to me like maybe they should be teaching German lessons in Islamic schools.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-03-14 08:41  

#4  An impartial and objective tract on Islam could only be negative. For example, at the end of his wretched life, Muhammad sent thousands of jihadis on a Summer desert search for "Romans" in the farcical "Tabak Campaign." None were found, and thousands of soldiers deserted. Muhammad was so humiliated that he had no choice but to pardon them. Reality dictates that a "prophet" would be privy to foreign troop locations. Maybe the "Angel Gabriel" was on Pluto at the time, and couldn't contact his revelation-boy. Or maybe the koran is fiction, wrapped in historicial narrative, made possible by the fiction.

As for the comment on studying Luther; they don't. Only scholars are permitted to conduct comparative religion research. The average muslim is conditioned to believe that Jewish and Christian sacred texts, are Satanic distortions. The "Satanic Verse" incident - as described in the Tirmidh hadith - illustrates that even Muhammad was vulnerable to Satanic possession. Try giving a muslim colleague a Bible; other than for taqiyah ends, they won't touch it. You have been conditioned to believe in social pluralism; muslims believe in unitarianism.
Posted by: McZoid   2008-03-14 06:00  

#3  "Bekir Alboga, head of a German Muslim council, said that children should be taught about Islam throughout the country and criticised the lack of teachers qualified to do so."

Yes, how dare teachers in Germany not teach Islamic doctrine such as the following verses from the Koran.

Fight strenuously against the unbelievers. . . .
Fight those who believe not in Allah. . . .
Verily, Allah loves those who fight in his cause. . . .
The sword is the key to heaven. . . .
A drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah. . . .
A night spent in arms is of more avail than two months of fasting. . .
Whosoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven. . . .
Allah loveth not the transgressors; kill them wheresoever you find them. . .
Take not a Jew or a Christian for your friend or protector. . . .
It hath not been granted unto any prophet that he should possess captives; until he hath made a great slaughter of the infidels in the earth. .

Posted by: www   2008-03-14 04:17  

#2  A conference aimed at easing tensions with GermanyÂ’s 3.4 million Muslims
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A recent official study showing one in seven Muslims in Germany — and one in four among young Muslims — has a radical political outlook, although 90 percent oppose terrorism.


So 340,000 German muslims support terrorism. How reassuring.
Posted by: Kirk   2008-03-14 01:54  

#1  Germany got its butt kicked twice in the past 100 years for its leanings towards facism. And now it is headed for Islamo-Facism.
Posted by: Omusort Fillmore9167   2008-03-14 00:30  

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