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| 'I will withdraw US troops from Iraq' |
| 2008-03-20 |
| Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says, if he is elected president, he will pull out the US forces from Iraq within 16 months. Obama said on Wednesday that the Iraq war had made the United States less secure and that he would withdraw American troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office. The US has witnessed on Wednesday, series of planned anti-war rallies across the nation, commemorating the fifth anniversary of the US-led war in Iraq. The Illinois Senator, taking advantage of the occasion, described his rival Hillary Rodham Clinton as the one who could not be trusted to end the Iraq war. Obama said Clinton only started opposing the war when she began her presidential race, AP reported. "Ask yourself,'' Obama told the crowd, "Who do you trust to end a war: someone who opposed the war from the beginning, or someone who started opposing it when they started preparing a run for president?" |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #26 TW I love you... anyways, your right I was just playing around with most of the questions, but I am surprised you missed the one I left for you. You usually amaze me with your intuition, but it is friday night and I know you are tired... No worries some other night, but if you ban me I shall not come back :) |
| Posted by: mac-d-only 2008-03-20 23:05 |
| #25 I thought mac-d-only had been banned. What on earth could he possibly have been doing to be away from his desk for half a decade? If it's that he retired, then he has the time to research his questions instead of demanding others do the work for him. After all, it's all in the Rantburg archives, including links to the original articles so that he can judge the value of the analysis for himself... as well as the analyzers. He needn't rely on OldSpook to interpret for him when he appears fully capable of doing it on his own. On NPR this evening at 6:35 Eastern Daylight Savings Time... they had on several reporters from national and international print news media, discussing the issues of the day. The moderator brought up Senator McCain's gaffe about the Al Qaeda-Iran link, as reported so gleefully in the New York Times. It was the BBC reporter, I think, who bluntly corrected him, saying that if one looks carefully at the history, the link between Iran and Al Qaeda goes back to the early part of the 1990s; not only was, and is, he said, Iran sheltering several leadership groups of Al Qaeda (including one of Osama bin Laden's sons, as I recall, although he didn't mention that), but he had seen the evidence that Iran was funding Al Qaeda in Iraq now as well as the Shiite groups. Oddly enough, we've had a great many open source articles here which say exactly the same thing. Those who are curious need only go through the archives. Which is why Rantburgers believe these things to be true. The vexing thing is that the New York Times and so many other U.S. and international news vendors continue to claim otherwise, and those who prefer to think themselves amongst the highly intelligent merely by dint of passing their eyes over those pages, instead of doing the slightest bit of research -- so easy nowadays that even I can google or look up on Wikipedia -- continue to believe them. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-03-20 22:59 |
| #24 Can't make a horse drink... (shrug)... no worries... I like you frankness... |
| Posted by: mac-d-only 2008-03-20 22:27 |
| #23 twice for emphasis, I guess.... |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-03-20 22:24 |
| #22 "mac-d-only" - your name here is "troll". Don't expect a response |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-03-20 22:11 |
| #21 "mac-d-only" - your name here is "troll". Don't expect a response |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-03-20 22:11 |
| #20 You guys are giving steak and cavier to these trolls! Like a dead mackeral in the moonlight, Obama both shines and stinks. The problem is, the closer we get to the core of Obama, the more you smell the rot of a power hungry politician. Someone who would throw his mother under the bus so he can advance his campaign past his association with racist hate-mongerers. This is very well said. Grandmother too. |
| Posted by: Jan 2008-03-20 21:37 |
| #19 Hey OLD Spook I just want to clarify a few things... I have been away from my desk for 5 years, so I was just hoping you could clear up a few things. You said "We are winning - but we have not yet won." What is it that you are winning??? Who is the enemy you are fighting??? Is this enemy contained in Iraq exclusively??? When will we know that you have won??? What is a terrorist??? When does and ordinary Iraqi turn into a terrorist??? Has the reason for America's invasion changed since 5 years ago??? Why is America in Iraq currently ??? Where are the WMD's ??? Was there a such thing as Al Qaeda before America invaded to look for those WMD's??? Did Obama Binladen have anything to do with Sadam Husain??? What did Benazir Bhutto mean when she said Bin laden was dead? How can he be dead when he is still making tapes that say America is safer then ever before... |
| Posted by: mac-d-only 2008-03-20 21:26 |
| #18 The American people wanted the US in Iraq. And that is why the Democrats gave it their blessings. Thousands of people were killed in minutes in Manhatten, the Pentagon was hit, the White House may have been next except for some people who took out that threat in flight. It was open season Middle East leader who could help the ones that could have the ability to give the new suicidal bombers more powerfull means. But then you have a whole party of people who are screaming retreat and have been as soon as the first shots were fired. That party includes Hillary and O My Gosh, they be shooting at us Obama. |
| Posted by: www 2008-03-20 18:37 |
| #17 SMN, you are an idiot as well, my little trolling friend. Obama is certifiably STUPID as are all the "get out now" crowd. They ignore reality of Iraq now and continue to believe it is as it was 2 years ago, argue about how we got there instead of dealing with reality now and how to win, are ignorant of Arab culture in Iraq, and completely oblivious as to the consequences of the actions the demand. Like a dead mackeral in the moonlight, Obama both shines and stinks. The problem is, the closer we get to the core of Obama, the more you smell the rot of a power hungry politician. Someone who would throw his mother under the bus so he can advance his campaign past his association with racist hate-mongerers. In short - deliberate ignorance is their hallmark. As is yours. And like Obama, you mix it with wordplay and disingenuousness - which makes you and him both idiots. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2008-03-20 18:22 |
| #16 If either of those two donks get's into office, Then I can't say they (our population) deserves the service of our armed forces. If the public delivers this stab in the back, then I would applaud any service member who just walked away. Let the protest march attendees fight the next war. |
| Posted by: Rob06 2008-03-20 18:12 |
| #15 "Was OS saying "fucking idiot?" Of course that There. Fixed that for ya. |
| Posted by: Jomosing Bluetooth8431 2008-03-20 14:58 |
| #14 Don't get me wrong, I'm prepared to give my 'blessing' to McCain or Hillary, should Obama lose, but to the lesser of the 'mudslinger'! |
| Posted by: smn 2008-03-20 13:14 |
| #13 Some of us, smn, may be not of color, but I, for one, do not hate Obama. I just think he's a hypocrite socialist not worthy of my vote. Is that O.K.? |
| Posted by: Bobby 2008-03-20 12:52 |
| #12 There is a difference between hating the man and disapproving of what he chooses to stand for, smn dear. Besides, how do you know that those here who dislike the honourable Senator Obama are white? Many of us aren't even North American, after all, or even of Caucasian descent. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-03-20 12:35 |
| #11 I'm aware of that smn and that's what I plan to do. So...what seems to be your point? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2008-03-20 12:05 |
| #10 Was OS saying "fucking idiot?" Of course that might apply to all of the donk candidates. |
| Posted by: Captain Hupeling2734 2008-03-20 11:57 |
| #9 For all you Obama haters; you have nothing to lose! Simply vote for McCain (OldSpook), clear your conscience, feel good about life. What is 'Little Wright's' strengths, against the 'Power Of The White Side'?? |
| Posted by: smn 2008-03-20 11:51 |
| #8 Guess what Barack? Thanks to your lunatic preacher friend, you're never gonna get the chance. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2008-03-20 11:30 |
| #7 And so by withdrawing, he would create another Afghanistan type of country. Then, he would need to re-invade since he said he would go after AQ if they "showed up" in Iraq. I tell you, the man is a fucking moron and a monument to liberal stupidity. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-03-20 11:24 |
| #6 Why do all them Dems want to model their policies on Richard Nixon? That which you hate, you tend to become. |
| Posted by: Guillibaldo Chusotle9664 2008-03-20 10:06 |
| #5 After all they are only BROWN skinned people The wrong kind of brown-skinned people, OldSpook. The right kind of brown-skinned people he'll call a friend for decades and allow to baptize his daughters. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-03-20 07:44 |
| #4 He can't have us making war on his cousins. How would that look at the Nation of Islam rallies. |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2008-03-20 07:43 |
| #3 Because Nixon was a model Dem dhimmi. Affirmative action, EPA, wage & price controls... |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-03-20 06:56 |
| #2 Why do all them Dems want to model their policies on Richard Nixon? |
| Posted by: Bobby 2008-03-20 06:40 |
| #1 Barak is a f**king idiot that would throw away the lives given and work accomplished in Iraq, only to have to go back in within a year after Iraq collapses from us withdrawing before they are ready. We are winning - but we have not yet won. And we will not win if he forces us to turn tail and run and abandon those who sided with us and freedom. The bloodbath there from Al Qaeda would be immense, as would the civil war that would ensue, and the Iranian influence to incite the violence. Mix in the loss of oil production and the uncertainties and how they would rocket petroleum prices, knocking us into a depression, world wide. What a freakin IDIOT. Destablize the region and kill hundreds of thousand. I guess the deaths don't matter do that Obama? After all they are only BROWN skinned people, and they are worth a lot less than American people, aren't they Barak? Barak COWARDLY ASSHOLE Obama. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2008-03-20 01:58 |