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Obama seeks to explain 'guns or religion' remark
2008-04-13
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, known for his skills as an orator, conceded today that comments he made at a private San Francisco fundraiser about working-class Democrats clinging to "guns or religion" were poorly chosen. "I didn't say it as well as I should have," he said. "But what is absolutely true is that people don't feel like they are being listened to. And so they pray and they count on each other and they count on their families."

Seeking to defuse the damage among blue-collar Democrats essential to his chances in upcoming primaries in Pennsylvania and Indiana, Obama told a crowd in Muncie, Ind., that he only meant to show empathy. "Lately, there's been a little typical sort of political flare-up because I said something that everybody knows is true, which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my hometown in Illinois, who are bitter," Obama said. "They are angry, they feel like they've been left behind. They feel like nobody's paying attention to what they're going through."

The controversy -- fanned by rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain -- began when the Huffington Post website published remarks the Illinois senator made last weekend at a closed-door San Francisco fundraiser.

In those comments, Obama responded to a question about why his candidacy was struggling in Pennsylvania by saying that residents of some hard-pressed communities had grown bitter. "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Being a politician, B.O. is trying to defuse the situation by addressing the element that's least harmful to him, letting the rest of it fall by the wayside to be forgotten.

Having grown up in Hawaii and Indonesia and places like that, B.O. probably doesn't actually know an awful lot about small town Pennyslvania. I grew up there, so maybe I can enlighten him.

First of all, the state's 300 miles wide and it's not homogenous from corner to corner. Erie's a different place from Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh's different from both of them, and all three are different from central Pennsylvania.

My family moved from Kentucky to central Pennyslvania, near Hershey, in the early 50s, there to live among the Pennylvania Dutchmen and the Italians imported to work in the candy factory and the limestone quarries. My Dad went from the coal mines to the quarry.

We three hillbilly kids (with another on the way) became -- through my grandparents -- a part of the Italian side of things, but there wasn't an awfully big divide. Our street was maybe majority Italian, but there were Croatians and Pennsylvania Dutchmen and "English" as well. There was a small influx of Hungarians ("Hunkies") after the 1956 uprising, and a couple years later there was an influx of Puerto Ricans ("Ricans"). Perhaps our parents occasionally sneered at each other -- I can't recall ever seeing it happen -- but the kids mostly played together without any more than the usual occasions for fisticuffs.

All those people who were so busy showing antipathy to people who weren't like them were even then clinging to their religion, no doubt in anticipation of all the jobs going away. Most people routinely went to church on Sunday. Us masses routinely ate up that Opiate™. There was a divide between Catholics and Protestants -- the former mostly Italian and Irish and Croatian and the few Puerto Ricans, the latter mostly everybody else. There weren't any mosques, and as far as I know there wasn't even a synagogue. My Dad occasionally attended a Church of Christ and my Mom was Catholic. We went to Catholic schools for my elementary years and occasionally fought with public school kids.

Not only did we cling to our guns, we clung to our fishing rods, too. My Grandaddy taught me to shoot, with a .22, potting rats in the chicken yard while he drank home-made wine. Most kids took a few days off from school every fall when deer season opened and summers were spent drowning worms or impaling grasshoppers in search of the elusive crappy.

With, I guess, the exception of big city downtowns, that kid culture's probably what the length and breadth of Pennsylvania has in common.

B.O. sees embittered, faceless masses in Pennsylvania. I see a land of milk and honey dealing with the results of decades of goofy economic policies, both Dem and Publican, many of them premised on compassion. Those masses aren't faceless to me. They have wives, children, pasts and even futures. They deserve better than sneering condescension.
Posted by:Fred

#8  Obama's campaign is charred toast. Let's hope that the Dems don't realize it until after he's nominated. I want to see this arrogant jerk and his party take a massive, recordbreaking beatdown in a year where they should win because it's going to require that to get the Dems to become a sane party again.
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707   2008-04-13 18:44  

#7  Fred, Pennsylvania IS land of milk and honey. Kind of like a temple mount if you know what I say.

America is of people from everywhere on this planet. IT IS the United nations. We have family from every country here and even have shape shifting aliens and religious figures from way long ago. The Dead truly are live.
We adopt anyone here in this Island of misfit toys and I love it so.

Too bad the abominable snowmen from the idiot past decided that starship troopers were useless to the world.

Guns and religion, Obama does not know.
This nation, he is foreign from,
and his cause is unGodly. Our quest is survival.

I am sure God would not mind Religion or a Gun.
But he HATES Socialists, Communists, and political dreamweavers with no sense.
Posted by: newc   2008-04-13 16:31  

#6  They've been full of shit for decades, AP, so purge away.

As long as the result of the "purging" doesn't flow out of the elite bastions into my back yard.... ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-04-13 15:06  

#5  It is good that BHO made the speech. Let's get his real beliefs out in the open. Same with Hillary. Let's have it out and get this liberal, elitist attitude toward the people that make the country work purged, like a gigantic enema on the body politic.

Sorry for the graphic analogy, but that is how I see it.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2008-04-13 14:58  

#4  And from Mike at Cold Fury:

This is the unguarded speech, the speech that says what you are really thinking. And here is the thought: “You are all xenophobic, violent, religious nuts, but it really isn’t your fault because you are too stupid to see what the problem is. Let me make you wards of the state and all will be better.” A better piece of condescension I have not read in many a day. And a wonderful insight into this candidate…..Here’s how it really is, Mr. Black Racist Jesus: some, if not most, blacks will vote for you, simply because you’re black. Statists will vote for you because you’re a hard-Left statist. And the liberal elite will vote for you because you make them feel soooo superior to the rubes you, and they, so obviously despise. The lot of them are deluded; they’ve been suckered by yet another race-baiting machine politician who knows how to press their hot-buttons in his mercenary bid for power."
Posted by: no mo uro   2008-04-13 09:01  

#3  Newt Gingrich weighs in:

"If you go to the most expensive private school in Hawaii and then move on to Columbia University and Harvard Law School, you may not understand normal Americans. Their beliefs are so alien to your leftwing viewpoint that you have to seek some psychological explanation for what seem to be weird ideas.

They can't really believe in the right to bear arms.

They can't really believe in traditional marriage.

They can't really believe in their faith in God.

They can't really want to enforce the law on immigration.

Therefore, they must be "bitter" and "frustrated."

This is the closest Senator Obama has come to openly sharing his wife's view that "America is a mean country". Not since Governor Dukakis have we seen anyone so out of touch with normal Americans. It makes perfect sense that it was in a fundraiser in San Francisco that he would have shared the views he has so carefully kept hidden for the entire campaign."

Posted by: no mo uro   2008-04-13 08:34  

#2  Bo has the stench of the International all over him, hes a bought and paid for mouthpiece of subversion.....
Posted by: Thraviper Panda2099   2008-04-13 08:32  

#1  Good commentary, Fred. My uprbringing was similar in a many ways to yours. I think if I suggested to my mother that we were going to church because we didn't have as much money as some of the neighbors I would have had her handprint on my face for about 20 minutes.

Here's what Ed Morrisey had to say at his blog:

"This distills the Obama viewpoint about middle America to its essence. He assumes that gun ownership, religious faith, and a desire to enforce border security grows out of a mental defect or simple petulance. He cannot understand any of it as deeply held values or beliefs because they are all so foreign to him. His cure is a huge, whopping dose of government intervention to replace all of it. ThatÂ’s the hubris, the condescension, and the elitism rolled up into a precise point."
Posted by: no mo uro   2008-04-13 08:27  

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