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| 2008-04-27 |
| Posted by:tipper |
| #19 Steve you are fking wrong. Sure they came over chained as slaves - but you idiot, THAT is not the time in question you context changing moron! It that doesnt change the FACT that the Irish were treated like crap too, especially by that time in US History, they were treated every bit as bad as blacks, and in some ways worse. SO back it the hell up. |
| Posted by: Gomez Chavith6752 2008-04-27 22:03 |
| #18 Blacks have more opportunity and less willingness to take advantage of it than any other group in America. For what other reason than his skin color is an empty suit like BO the odds-on favorite to become the next President? I have no sympathy for blacks; they've more than recouped any reparations owed in their predations on the rest of America's citizens. Look at their crime statistics. Even according to the USG blacks commit more than half the violent crime in America--as 13% of the population. And if you want the real reason behind most Americans' absolutely adamant refusal to give up personal firearms, just read the crime reports. Or Google Christian Channon or Christopher Newsom or the Wichita Horror. If you haven't a clue, you soon will have. I've worked with lots of blacks in my career. Some have been pretty decent; none have been outstanding. I was never lucky enough to run across a Condi or a Thomas Sowell. Far too many, however, truly justified the stereotype of the feckless, incompetent, perenially aggrieved employee who was willing to blame anything other than his poor performance for his/her failure to get ahead. I've also worked with other minorities and found them to be head and shoulders above their black co-workers--and hated for it by blacks as a consequence. Again, my sympathy for blacks is gone and I think Steve White's excuses are ridiculous. They should be treated no differently than anyone else in normal society, and quite probably should have their criminals treated worse. That might discourage their ethnic group from producing so many of them. Our country's days of being rich enough to afford this type of pandering, parasitic idiocy are coming to a close. For some of us, it can't come soon enough. |
| Posted by: Chinegum McGurque5166 2008-04-27 21:18 |
| #17 Slavery was horrible, but my ancestors were too poor to own slaves and my wife's family didn't even arrive until 50 years after emancipation. Those two cases probably excuse most white Americans. Blacks need to forget reparations and stop wallowing in the 19th century. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2008-04-27 20:28 |
| #16 "Not to be too rude, Wolf, but I didn't realize your 1912 ancester came over on a wooden ship in the Middle Passage, chained to several hundred other Irishmen, and then sold at an auction block." Very true, but in 1912 very few African-Americans arrived that way either. However if you were to go back a few years, things were different. On a pro-rata basis the Irish were probably the largest group sent to the Americas as slaves. |
| Posted by: tipper 2008-04-27 20:27 |
| #15 My apologies for interjecting here S. White... But,uh "Let's just remember that..." is a bit rich, don't you think? "Not Remember"? Just WHEN would WE ever get an opportunity to "NOT Remember"- you effing ASSHOLE |
| Posted by: Asymmetrical Triangulation 2008-04-27 20:24 |
| #14 The immigrant experience of most blacks is so qualitatively different from that of any other immigrant group that relative comparison is foolish and actually impossible. That fact is why the assimilation of blacks into America remains problematic while that of more recent arrivals is complete. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-04-27 20:12 |
| #13 very true, SW, but those that imposed that and those that suffered that, are long dead. I feel no need to pay a single friggin dollar to a racial grievance whiner. I pay taxes, and unfortunately they get more than they should from those. All that reparations-demands do is harden my position. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-04-27 19:24 |
| #12 And let's not forget that African slaves were turned to for the labor because the ruling class ran out of enough whites to do the work and the natives couldn't handle the body degrading work dying off too fast. Losers faced either death or exile to America in many instances, ask the decedents of the Monmouth Rebellion or the '45. Even later when the republican movements were crushed in '48 throughout Europe another wave found our shores rather than serfdom or death. Toss in the pogroms that routinely ran through communities to the east. Yep, big choice, death or departure. They certainly came here as 'free spirits'. The Africans didn't have the means to escape their 'idyllic' homes, instead their neighbors raided their villages and dragged them to the ports to sold to the Euros. How many would have opted like the Euros and Chinese and others, if there were the means otherwise not available to migrate on their own. As the lady relates, life for the immigrant laborer wasn't much above that of slaves either. Just enough to keep the home and family together in meager existence, till the next generation might have the opportunity to progress. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-04-27 19:22 |
| #11 Not to be too rude, Wolf, but I didn't realize your 1912 ancester came over on a wooden ship in the Middle Passage, chained to several hundred other Irishmen, and then sold at an auction block. Very few of our ancestors went through what the Africans went through. Let's just remember that. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2008-04-27 19:03 |
| #10 What's that woman doing as a Dem? She's way too smart for that nonsense; she needs to be with us. We could certainly use her guts and ability to write. |
| Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 2008-04-27 17:51 |
| #9 It would be nice if people could get along instead of turning someone into a "racist", wouldn't it? |
| Posted by: Glolung McCoy7404 2008-04-27 17:30 |
| #8 All I can say is, thank gawd Hillary's still in the race, we wouldn't know about any of this c**p if it was just Obama vs. McCain. |
| Posted by: Abdominal Snowman 2008-04-27 16:58 |
| #7 Now, now, that wouldn't be nice, if he were to treat Mr. Obama the way he treats Rethuglicans. |
| Posted by: Abdominal Snowman 2008-04-27 16:57 |
| #6 Any chance of McCain hiring Ms Grabar to write his campaign speeches? |
| Posted by: GK 2008-04-27 16:38 |
| #5 OUCH, that gal can Bitchslap with the best of them. I love it. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-04-27 14:26 |
| #4 As the son of an Irish immigrant (he came here in 1912 at age 8) I agree completely with this article. The prejdudice and outright discrimination experienced by my father and his family rivals anything any of the "people of color" experienced. Thank you Ms. Graybar. |
| Posted by: WolfDog 2008-04-27 13:36 |
| #3 Wow. My eyes are burning from the caustic rant! |
| Posted by: Bobby 2008-04-27 13:20 |
| #2 Spot on! |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-04-27 13:12 |
| #1 Righteous rant. Good catch, Tipper! |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-04-27 12:48 |