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Clinton Trumpets Her Blue-Collar Pitch in Indiana
2008-04-28
"Yersh! Wanna shee me down anuzzer boilermaker? [Hic!]"
Posted by:Fred

#20  OP, your comment about unionized govt employees struck a note: Mrs. Ret and I both used to despise unions, having grown up in Michigan with amny UAW relatives and watching their featherbedding tactics.
She is a GS- 11/12 and works for Navy Officers. they come and go and her dept is a 'check in the block' for command in the medical arena. Fairly routinly she gets a boss with the God complex and stupid stuff unsues. She joined the union just so she could have some support so that she could get her work done and not have to do dipsh!t stuff (like move offices every 2 weeks, and other non value added crap, i know about that, she was directed at least twice to move overnight, no overtime, no support, and be up and running the next day. we got done about 3 am. then did it again)so please don't use that broad of a brush when you are painting the bureaucrats, there are actually some good ones out there. but i do agree those that are worthless need to go!
Posted by: USN,Ret.   2008-04-28 22:39  

#19  Hillarity wouldn't know anything about work - she's never done any. Neither has silver-spoon-boy BO. If you want to create jobs, cut the amount of bureaucracy and red tape the "Government" has saddled companies with for decades. The IRS was finally forced to quit collecting the tax to "pay for the Spanish American War". We still have rules put in place for World War II - a war that's been over for 60 years.

As for term limits, it's a start. Each state should also be FORCED to purchase and maintain a dwelling for elected officials from their state, who will vacate when they lose an election or are forced out by term limits. As for limits themselves, I suggest a maximum of six terms as a Congressman, and two as a Senator, the same limits as on the Presidency. Congresscritters of both stripes will have to fund their own retirement from their ample paycheck. "No retirement? Too da$$ed bad - you should have planned better."

An even bigger problem is the high-handedness of unelected bureaucrats that think THEY run the government. They should all be reminded that working for the government is a privilege that can be withdrawn, not a right. AFSCME should be crushed, and any complainers fired on the spot. When in he$$s name did the GOVERNMENT need unionized employees? Put an end to it, and the politics that go with it. Use force if necessary, and whack a few that scream the loudest - they're the ones that have stolen the most.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-04-28 22:12  

#18  Yes, but damn well pay them at least a mill a year if nothing more to attract better candidate [works in sports and other businesses] and to suppress the stupid people tricks of getting family/blood hired, by reelection committees or lobbyists, to generate income.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-04-28 20:51  

#17  Term limits and no more pensions...
Posted by: Snash Oppressor of the Mohammatans aka Broadhead6   2008-04-28 20:06  

#16  OS you are absolutely correct on the term limits thing and I agree with your proposed limits. They are perfect. This has to be a high priority for all Americans, regardless of their political party.
Posted by: remoteman   2008-04-28 17:36  

#15  I seem to recall that Forest Rangers wear Green Collars, no others that I know of.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-04-28 16:33  

#14  Above should read "30" years and I coulda swore thats what it said.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-04-28 16:14  

#13  NS, thats kinda what some people are hoping for. The problem isn't the Presidency, its the Congress and its pork and corruption.


Term limits NOW. And apply them to currentl members. 6 terms house, 3 terms senate. 20 years in DC is plenty. (And I'm being generous, I'd rather it be 4 and 2 for 20 years).

No More Trent Lotts, No More Robert Byrds, No More
Pelosis (D-CA) or Lewis.

Enough is ENOUGH!
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-04-28 16:13  

#12  Whoever wins is one term. Yes, the next four years will be that bad.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-04-28 14:37  

#11  My prediction:

If McCain wins, he's one term and out.

If Hillary wins, she's one term and out.

If O'Bama wins, we get him for two terms, sorry.

I am not currently offering predictions of who actually wins.
Posted by: Seafarious   2008-04-28 14:33  

#10  Fred may not badmouth McCain very often but he lets me do it whenever I want and I do it quite often.

My hope is that, if Obama manages to win, which is still a very big if, he will be so bad that Republicans will nominate a real conservative in 2012. Obama will then go down in history as being an even worse president than Rantburg's all time favorite, jimmuh carter. That is, if we manage to survive an Obama presidency, which is a very big if. Sorry, I think even Hillary would make a better president and that ain't sayin' much.

But don't worry, smn, if Obama loses I hear the Castro brothers are still in charge in Cuba so you can always move down there to get your free health care.

A few things I can say for your guy, as ridiculous as he is, he sure is giving Hillary a run for her money. He's making her sweat. He's making her stumble all over herself. It sure is fun to watch. And if it wasn't for Obama, we might never have heard the soaring oratory of his mentor the Racist Right Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2008-04-28 14:26  

#9  Wow, green collar jobs. That's great. Now all those folks that lost all those dot com jobs ten years ago can get new ones.
I wanna become a carbon credit advisor. No wait. A carbon credit guru. Yeah. That's what I want...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-04-28 14:15  

#8  Â“WeÂ’re going to create green-collar jobs.”

Sounds like a job for Whisk.
Posted by: no mo uro   2008-04-28 11:44  

#7  At least Hillary will create green collar jobs. Barack Obama will require them.
Posted by: KBK   2008-04-28 10:19  

#6  Â“WeÂ’re going to create green-collar jobs.”

Well…happy frikkin days are here again! Senator Clinton says she’s going to solve energy dependence, eliminate global climate change, create jobs, and provide health-care all in one big master plan. Why…that’s down right…com-pre-hensive of her. Not to sound skeptical here but I’m a tad curious as to whom exactly does she mean by “we” in that statement…the government? And how’s that gonna work with that whole “Free Market” thingy? Oh well…I guess she’ll fill us in on those mundane little details after she gets elected.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2008-04-28 10:00  

#5  Just mention McCain's sell out on illegals to get us started. He hasn't forget that yet and I'm sure he's got payback in the folder. Which is why Congressional elections are just as, if not more, important this cycle.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-04-28 09:15  

#4  I thought I got Hillary when she was under sniper fire a week or two ago? Did you sleep through it?

And if I haven't hit McCain yet, I promise I will. He's a better man than either B.O. or Hillary, but there's always the Keating 5 to bring up.

However, let me add that both B.O. and Hillary have announced they'd surrender in the WoT first thing. McCain has explicitly stated he won't. That makes his remaining sins easier to either forgive or to address later.
Posted by: Fred   2008-04-28 08:51  

#3  Loooooser
Posted by: Frank G   2008-04-28 08:24  

#2  Come on Fred...fill my screen like you do on your Obama opins! And where the hell are your thoughts on McCain, does he even exist in your universe??
Posted by: smn   2008-04-28 02:35  

#1  Showing your bias Fred, come on, only one line of opin to Hillary?
Posted by: smn   2008-04-28 02:31  

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