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Iraq
US top court rules against Americans held in Iraq
2008-06-14
Federal judges cannot block US military officials from turning over two Americans held in Iraq to local authorities who want to prosecute them for involvement in the insurgency or criminal activity, the Supreme Court ruled yesterday.
The Supremes actually turned down an opportunity to extend their reach? I'm surprised ...
The high court's decision was a defeat for two Americans who say they are innocent and who are being held by US soldiers at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport. Chief Justice John Roberts said in the court's opinion that the two lawsuits should have been promptly dismissed.

Their lawyers say the two men might be tortured or even killed if they are transferred to Iraqi custody and that they should have access to US courts to challenge their detention and to stop their transfer to Iraqi authorities.

One case involved Mohammad Munaf, an Iraqi-American with dual citizenship. He was convicted in Iraq and sentenced to death for his suspected role in the 2005 kidnapping of three Romanian journalists. His conviction was later overturned by an Iraqi court and his case sent back for further investigation.

The other case involved Shawqi Omar, an American-Jordanian citizen who is accused of being a senior associate of the late insurgent leader Abu Musab Al Zarqawi. A federal judge in Washington DC, and then a US appeals court blocked Omar's transfer to Iraqi custody.

The Bush administration has argued that US courts have no jurisdiction over the cases, partly because the two men are being held under the auspices of multinational forces in Iraq, of which US troops are only a part.

The court rejected the administration's arguments that the two men have no rights whatsoever to habeas corpus-the right to challenge their imprisonment. Roberts said the right extends to American citizens held overseas by American forces operating subject to an American chain of command. But he held that US courts do not have the power to block their transfer to a foreign country for criminal prosecution.

Roberts said the two men's claim that they would be tortured if transferred to Iraqi custody was a serious concern. But he said the issue had to be addressed the political branches of government, not the judiciary.
Posted by:Fred

#7  Does Allah count as a 'potentate'?
Posted by: Free Radical   2008-06-14 15:36  

#6  The State Department officially looks the other way when confronted with dual passports. The Oath of Citizenship is just an empty gesture, a US passport is viewed by many as a convenience rather than a nationality. I know some Chinese people to whom their US passport is just that, a passport - it's purely for ease of travel and nothing else.
Posted by: gromky   2008-06-14 13:57  

#5  I agree, Nimble Spemble.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-06-14 10:56  

#4  Seems like The US should take the oath of citizenship
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
, seriously and stop granting "dual citizenship." This concept is Anti-American. It would stop a lot of problems and sort out who's on which side.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-06-14 10:34  

#3  Seems like these guys with dual citizenship should give up their American citizenship when they take up arms against America. These two yardbirds are not stellar upstanding citizens of any country.
Posted by: JohnQC   2008-06-14 10:14  

#2  This is totally consistent with lefty tranzy doctrine which holds that while the laws of the other countries supersede and can be used to nullify the will of the American people inside the US; the opposite does not hold true when outside our borders.
Posted by: Scott R   2008-06-14 07:55  

#1  The Supremes actually turned down an opportunity to extend their reach? I'm surprised ...

Kennedy predicated his grab for power on the parties being held under de jure or de facto American sovereignty. Well, at least that was his excuse. He chose to 'forget' that Yamashita challenged the authority of the military tribunal to which he was subject, Yamashita vs Styer, and was held in the Philippines in '45 which was a territory of the United States at the time and under our control till their independence, previously scheduled, and granted July 4, 1946. The court can make these things up rationalize anyway they want, when they want.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-06-14 06:44  

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