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Home Front Economy
Ford Has $8.7 Billion Loss, Shifts Away From Trucks
2008-07-25
(Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co., the world's third- biggest automaker, posted a record quarterly loss of $8.7 billion and accelerated a conversion to fuel-efficient vehicles to wean itself from money-losing trucks.
Just a piece of advice: keep producing trucks if you want, stop producing anything that runs on gasoline or diesel. Produce nothing but trucks and cars that'll run on natural gas or propane in the interim, with the ultimate goal of running them on hydrogen without major modification. If you build it, they will come, and the distribution system with them. Most of us by this point will be happy to avoid any of our dollars going to any Arab or African oil producing nation, and happy enough to see Exxon, Shell, and Citgo in penury.
Ford shares fell the most in almost seven years after the company reported a second-quarter deficit of $3.88 a share compared with a profit of $750 million, or 31 cents, a year earlier. The figure included $8 billion in pretax writedowns for plant closings and the declining value of truck leases at Ford Motor Credit Co.
Don't timidly try and compete in the hybrid market. Make a bold break and go for CNG/LNG.
The automaker said it will double production of hybrid vehicles, sell more European autos such as the Fiesta in the U.S. and convert three North American truck factories to make a redesigned Focus and other small cars.
The Focus isn't half-bad. It gives them something to sell while they figure out what to do. Guess they thought they could sell the Explorer forever ...
The revamping is a response to record gasoline prices that have ravaged sales of large pickups and sport-utility vehicles and derailed Chief Executive Officer Alan Mulally's turnaround plan. ``They believe this is a permanent shift in buyer sentiment that they have to adjust to no matter how hard it will be,'' said Maryann Keller, an independent auto analyst and consultant based in Greenwich, Connecticut. `This is going to be expensive.''
Converting a car from gasoline to CNG/LNG costs about $100 in parts. Approaching the problem from the ground up you may come out with negative costs.
The loss marks the sixth in eight quarters under Mulally, 62, recruited from Boeing Co. to revive the Dearborn, Michigan- based automaker. Gasoline approaching $4 a gallon and plunging sales of F-Series pickups forced the CEO in May to abandon his target of returning to profit in 2009.
Six losses in eight quarters sez the old imagination factory's getting a little run down.
Posted by:Fred

#19  at 6'-2", 275, I doubt I fit in the parameters of our friend's "optimal" parameters. I would suggest he is a small man. In every measure of the phrasing. We do not share the same needs and his will be imposed over mine when he can enforce it. I hate pencilnecks.
Posted by: Frank G   2008-07-25 21:11  

#18  Re big private trucks: let's not forget that any city and town has numerous contractors who will haul your stuff on short notice.

Yeah, cities and towns. But it's a little harder to find one out here in the Mojave.

Funny how it's the urban/suburban dwellers who want to ban big trucks and SUVs and force everyone to take mass transit.

This kinda reminds me about the fable of the fox and the stork. Problem is, we got we gotta hell of a lot more foxes than storks.
Posted by: Pappy   2008-07-25 20:59  

#17  I see, probably that private ownership of trucks should be restricted?
Posted by: Frank G   2008-07-25 20:55  

#16  good for you, Mad Eye. Your point is?
Posted by: Frank G   2008-07-25 20:54  

#15  Mad Eye Gromotle44 - I have an SUV and a Grand Caravan for that.... little Saab doens't even fit my 6'4" 230lb body.
Neither will a prius.
Some of us just need big stuff.
Posted by: 3dc   2008-07-25 20:28  

#14  Re big private trucks: let's not forget that any city and town has numerous contractors who will haul your stuff on short notice. They usually have a 3 hour minimum and charge $15-$20 per hour. I give them business.
Posted by: Mad Eye Gromotle4458   2008-07-25 16:37  

#13  concur, Frank. My dodge ram 1500 quad cab 4x4 always seems to be in demand from some of my so called "eco-neighbors" out here. My enviro uncle asked me if I needed something that big - I said "No, but I can afford something this big". God Bless America.
Posted by: Broadhead6   2008-07-25 15:04  

#12  If sombody makes a vehicle that will pull a horse trailer with 2 horses or a trailer with 200 bales of hay and still gets 30mpg I'll buy it. Until then I'll keep my Dodge 2500.

Is that you Deacon or... the devils spawn?
Posted by: .5MT   2008-07-25 13:54  

#11  If Ford wants to return to profitability, it has to shift away from the UAW.
Posted by: RWV   2008-07-25 13:06  

#10  If they thought record gasoline prices would never ravage sales of large trucks and SUVs they deserve to go under. I can't blame them for selling these things as long as they could but they had to know this day was coming and they should have been prepared for it. Big trucks may come in handy if you have a big load to haul. But it doesn't make much sense these days to drive some big ass truck or SUV to work every day when the bed is empty.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2008-07-25 12:10  

#9  If sombody makes a vehicle that will pull a horse trailer with 2 horses or a trailer with 200 bales of hay and still gets 30mpg I'll buy it. Until then I'll keep my Dodge 2500.
Posted by: Fluting Black5987   2008-07-25 10:40  

#8  are people still driving ATVs in the desert? Anyone whos doing that has no right to criticize your truck.

These days, if you want to pick up stuff or move someone, the rental prices on trucks and vans aint too bad, IIUC. Easier to find than a compact for rent.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-07-25 10:04  

#7  will find it is no longer available to borrow to pick up that new BBQ at Lowes or help move their kid to a new apartment.

From my C20HD days.... "you don't know me but I sat behind you in the 4th grade, can I borrow you and your truck to help us move this weekend... pizza and beer?"

The pizza was always small, the bier Old Mill... still sometimes it worked.
Posted by: .5MT   2008-07-25 10:01  

#6  CNG/LNG doesn't need as much pollution control equipment.
$savings there.
Posted by: 3dc   2008-07-25 09:26  

#5  Bumper sticker seen far more than once -

Yes, it's my truck. No, I will not help you move.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-07-25 09:05  

#4  can't disagree with the variable fuel philosophy, but McZoid's mid-sized chevy won't move that bed set or ATV to the desert. There are some things a truck is necessary for, and the first of my friends that gives me shit for my 2004 F-150 4X4 will find it is no longer available to borrow to pick up that new BBQ at Lowes or help move their kid to a new apartment. I love my truck
Posted by: Frank G   2008-07-25 08:07  

#3  Ford and GM are Zombie companies.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-07-25 04:57  

#2  Whenever I drive my mid size Chevy past a 250, I ask myself: "does he really need that?"

Posted by: McZoid   2008-07-25 02:06  

#1  No, that would require competent management and flexible workers, both of which are nonexistent at the Big Two.
Posted by: gromky   2008-07-25 00:17  

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