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India-Pakistan
ISI back under PM's control
2008-07-28
In a surprise move early on Sunday morning, the government reversed its decision to place the country's premier intelligence agency -- the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) -- under the administrative, financial and operational control of the Interior Division.
That was quick.

"'Control?' I do not think that word means what you think it means!"
The Press Information Department (PID) issued a memorandum late on Saturday night stating that the country's two premier intelligence agencies -- the ISI and the Intelligence Bureau (IB) -- have been placed under the Interior Division's control. The Pakistan People's Party (PPP)-led government, however, later 'clarified' the earlier notification, saying the ISI would continue to operate at the prime minister's discretion.
In other words, they'll continue doing as they damned well please.
The government's announcement made headlines in Sunday's newspapers, while the clarification issued by the PID that "the notification regarding control of the ISI is being misinterpreted" continued to be the main topic of discussion among the military and political circles across the country. The announcement also created speculation among top intelligence circles.

Sources told Daily Times that the top military brass had not been consulted on the issue. "The military leadership stood up and managed to reverse the government's decision soon after the notification was issued," they added.
"Reverse the decision or it's curtains for the lot of youse!"
"Oh, yeah? What're youse gonna do?"
"It'll be an 'unfortunate accident.'"
"All of us?"
"All."
"Okay. It's reversed."
Under the new notification, the ISI will continue to perform its functions under the prime minister. It said: "The said notification only re-emphasises more co-ordination between the Ministry of Interior and the ISI in relation to the war on terror and internal security."

No change: However, the government stood firm on its decision to place the IB under the Interior Division.
Posted by:Fred

#13  Official Pak policy is that they will retaliate against India if any nation uses nukes against Pakistan.
Posted by: john frum   2008-07-28 18:16  

#12  I'm not very fired up over the subject at the moment. I figure it's only a matter of time until there's a Pak nuclear "work accident." They'll probably argue for years over whose was the "hidden hand" behind it, and never, ever admit it was the Islamic version of "Hey, y'all! Look what happens when I do this!"
Posted by: Fred   2008-07-28 17:51  

#11  oh, lets not worry too much about the fallout and the wind direction... we all know there are 'cleen' and 'green' nukes we can use. some of those bombs are so efficient that our own gear cant even detect them going off. Just the occasional 'seismic irregularity' that we attribute to the haliburton earthquake generation division...

Posted by: Abu do you love   2008-07-28 16:44  

#10  Time for some "tough love" with the Pakistanis - in the form of large nuclear blasts on the Pak nuke industry and any possible nuke storage facility

Did you ever consider that the winds blow from west to east?

Did you ever consider what country lies to the east of Pakistan?

I understand the sentiment, but please knock off the 'nuke' bullshit. It's become trite, it's bordering on stupid, and if it keeps up, you may find yourself sinktrapped by me.
Posted by: Pappy   2008-07-28 14:54  

#9  Time for some "tough love" with the Pakistanis - in the form of large nuclear blasts on the Pak nuke industry and any possible nuke storage facility, then a complete disassembly of any organizational unit. The Pakistani military is as much a terrorist organization as Hezbollah, and needs to be eradicated in the same manner - totally.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-07-28 13:53  

#8  The paramilitary forces deployed against the Taliban are not the real Pak army.

Their offensive units have never moved from the eastern borders.

Not even decades of Islamization can remove the British military traditions. They maintain unit discipline.

It is part of Pak strategy to disavow the ISI and AQ Khan when they are exposed. Suddenly they become rogue operators.
Posted by: john frum   2008-07-28 12:33  

#7  Don't confuse the Frontier Corps with the Mighty Pak Army. The FC is the bunch that gets held hostage by the bus load. The MPA has at least the minimal competence required to clean up amateurs like the TNSM or the tribal bulk of the Taliban. Since the MPA is on the same side as the TNSM and the Talibs, however, they avoid beating them up whenever they can.

It's when they're fighting the Indian army that they lose consistently, though they're not very good at learning from the experience.
Posted by: Fred   2008-07-28 12:24  

#6  The Pak military is a disciplined force and the ISI staff remain disciplined as they rotate into position.

Where did you read that? They drop their guns and run whenever the Taliwhackers approach. The get caught by the busload and held hostage. The only real revenge I have heard of them exacting on the Taliwhackers is shelling a couple of villages from several miles away.
Posted by: Jirt Prince of the Lichtensteiners4128   2008-07-28 11:25  

#5  The Pak Army Command controls the ISI. This whole business of rogue operators is part of its plausible deniability strategy to cover itself.

The ISI was created by a British Major General R Cawthorne. The ISI, as its name suggests, is staffed by serving officers of the 3 Pak services - Army Navy, Air Force. They are on short term deputation to the ISI and then rotate back to their regular units.

The Pak military is a disciplined force and the ISI staff remain disciplined as they rotate into position. The ISI implements policy set by Pak GHQ.

The fiction that the ISI has gone off the reservation allows avoiding the difficult question of how to deal with the Pakistani military.
Posted by: john frum   2008-07-28 10:26  

#4  ISI is out of control. These are org chart shuffles.

Nobody contrls the ISI except the ISI.

Which is why we probably should be doing wet work against certain elements of their mid-level leadership.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-07-28 10:02  

#3  That word "control." It just doesn't mean what they think it means...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2008-07-28 09:30  

#2  Just the Pak military showing who's the boss
Posted by: john frum   2008-07-28 08:21  

#1  Ho-ho , comedy gold .
Posted by: Mad Eye   2008-07-28 04:39  

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