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Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia preparing to attack Tblisi and conquer all of Georgia
2008-08-11
The Russian troops are marching towards Tbilisi. Georgia could fall by tomorrow morning. According to Stratfor,

"Russian forces do not excel at night fighting, so if there is to be another push it will occur at dawn Aug. 12 with air and then armored strikes on Mtskheta. Should that happen there will be literally nothing to stop the Russians from attacking Tbilisi directly".

President Saakashvili said in a televised address that the situation is "extremely grave" and that the Georgian troops are being regrouped around the capital.

"This is occupation attempt, attempt to totally occupy Georgia, attempt to destroy Georgia. RussiaÂ’s goal is to put an end to existence of the Georgian state. We are receiving only moral and humanitarian help from the international community, but we need more than that. We want them to stop these barbaric aggressors."

He also called on the population to gather outside the Parliament at 3pm on August 12 "to show the enemy that we are united and strong."
Posted by:OldSpook

#19  Just saw a state dept type on Fox late news talking about this. He was p-ssed off. They now seem to understand that the russians had planned this for some time. Russian troops were in both provinces under the guise of humanitarian work... fixing a railroad ... so it could be used for troops and ammo etc. Hopefully we will hear more about this.
Posted by: Legolas   2008-08-11 23:47  

#18  Русский люди

Быть вежливость!

Мы не здес браги!

I sure hope all that's spelled correctly
Posted by: badanov   2008-08-11 22:34  

#17  OldSpook. It's the peace of the grave.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-08-11 20:17  

#16  http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92GC5G80&show_article=1

Bush and Rice say play nice or we won't buy your lollipops
Posted by: Legolas   2008-08-11 20:15  

#15  Photo of US Airforce returning Georgian Troops to Georgia
Posted by: 3dc   2008-08-11 20:08  

#14  DRUDGEREPORT > US WARNS RUSSIA TO PULL BACK. Dubya on CNN + FOX called for both sides to fall back to original borderlines on 8/06th/o8 before the start of Russo-Georgian hostilities.

*CNN > INTERVIEW ID GEORGIAN PREZ > Saakashvili claims that, as of this AM, focii of Russ Milops is now as per ABKHAZIA [new front], wid IHO Russ is also prepping to expand its milops to possibly take over the whole of sovereign Georgia. SAAKASHVILI > GEORGIA IS FIGHTING A WAR TO PROTECT ITS DEMOCRACY + WILL NEVER SURRENDER TO RUSSIA???

* Also from DRUDGE > IRNA - POLAND, LITHUANIA, ESTONIA + UKRAINE CALL FOR UN PEACEKEEPING FORCES TO BE DEPLOYED TO GEORGIA.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-08-11 19:54  

#13  IF I didn't miss something, the latest statement from President Bush was just more of the same, alot of words. I am from Texas, voted twice for GW for Governor and twice for president, but I am disappointed at our response to this crisis. I realize it is a complicated situation, I just have a hard time believing there wasn't some response between words and all out war with Russia.
Posted by: Legolas   2008-08-11 19:48  

#12  Thanks John, I would have looked it up, but here at work the Burg is practically the only reliable site that isn't blocked.
Posted by: Scott R   2008-08-11 19:47  

#11  
Belarus had 81 single warhead missiles stationed on its territory after the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. They were all transferred to Russia by 1996. Belarus has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Kazakhstan inherited 1,400 nuclear weapons from the Soviet Union, and transferred them all to Russia by 1995. Kazakhstan has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Ukraine has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Ukraine inherited about 5,000 nuclear weapons when it became independent from the USSR in 1991, making its nuclear arsenal the third-largest in the world.[57] By 1996, Ukraine had voluntarily disposed of all nuclear weapons within its territory, transferring them to Russia.

Posted by: john frum   2008-08-11 19:29  

#10  Question: When the USSR split up, didn't Georgia end up in possession of a substantial nuclear stockpile? If so, what happened to it?
Posted by: Scott R   2008-08-11 19:24  

#9  Russians still bombing civilians.

Another AP reporter was in the village of Tkviavi, 7 1/2 miles south of Tskhinvali inside undisputed Georgian territory, when a bomb from a Russian warplane struck a house. The walls of neighboring buildings fell as screaming residents ran for cover. Eighteen people were wounded.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-08-11 19:21  

#8  there appear to be conflicting reports on this, on other sites they are said to be pulling back ... I tend to give alot of weight stratfor though
Posted by: Legolas   2008-08-11 19:17  

#7  Anybody else here see the irony of the "Find Your Russian Beauty" advert being so prominent on the site today (haven't been here for a week or so, so maybe it has been around for a while).
Posted by: remoteman   2008-08-11 18:52  

#6  If this turns out to be true ... well Gulf War I was about liberating kuwait ... how about helping out this friend
Posted by: Legolas   2008-08-11 18:51  

#5  Well, the mask is off. The Russian apologists/supporters here can disseminate all they want, but if Georgia falls and the Russians occupy (as seems the case) they are going to be the ones who will see the long term impact.

In a less than ideal scenario, Georgia may fall, but their falling may serve as a rallying signal to both the former Soviet sattelites and Western Europe that the Cold War is decidedly back on. Maybe it will make them get off their ass and do something about protecting themselves.
Posted by: remoteman   2008-08-11 18:51  

#4  Sorta forces Bush's hand on Iran
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-08-11 18:49  

#3  I'm ready to go to war with Russia over this. The bastards have had it coming for quite some time. We dropped the ball in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Let's do the right thing this time.
Posted by: Iblis   2008-08-11 18:48  

#2  And now the Russian Gangster-State thugger beings intimidating others...

Russia's ambassador to Latvia Monday warned the Baltic states and Poland that they would pay for their criticism of the Kremlin over the conflict in Georgia, the Baltic news agency BNS reported.

"One must not hurry on such serious issues, as serious mistakes can be made that have to be paid for a long time afterwards," Alexander Veshnyakov was quoted as saying by BNS.

Contacted by AFP, a spokesman for the Russian embassy in Riga confirmed the ambassador's comments but declined to elaborate.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-08-11 18:43  

#1  OK you apologists for imperial Russia and Tsar Putin, explain THIS one as "peacekeeping".
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-08-11 18:41  

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