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| Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia |
| Alternative to Saakashvili: Justice Party of Georgia |
| 2008-08-17 |
| Igor Giorgadze: -I will use any chance to get Georgia rid of the Soros piglets. Political crisis is not necessary for it. Our party is working on it and has many associates as for example the Anti-Soros Movement. Our main goal is to remove those people who are destroying our country. In the last election, Saakashvili received only 53% of the vote, even as he obstructed opposition candidate registration. How much support does he have now? Western leaders condone shelling of ethnic minorities in the Caucasus. What other groups are persona non grata? http://www.djavakhk.com/cartes.php?l=en Representative of Interfax: -Many political scientists call the incumbent government of Georgia a regime. Despite the declaration of democracy, the democratic values are in fact ruined. Do you have any data about the civil society in Georgia? Igor Giorgadze: -I am not the only person who has such data. International human rights organizations such as the Amnesty International and the Human Rights Watch have all the information about the civil society and democratic processes in Georgia. I can give a good picture of Georgian reality on the example of our party. 17 activists of our party have been kidnapped and beaten during the last four months. None of these incidents have been investigated. This indicates that it is the government behind these beatings. Torture is widespread in Georgian prisons. When Saakashvili publicly stated that Georgia has made big progress towards democracy, international organizations refuted this statement saying that it was simply false. The attack on democracy is underway in Georgia. The discontent of the people is growing. Everywhere in streets, shops, public transport, you can hear people criticizing and swearing at the government. On the one hand it is sad but on the other hand it gives us hope that the God is on our side. |
| Posted by:McZoid |
| #5 You attack Fred again, and lotp. Having witnessed Zenster's self-engineered dismissal, it seems you choose to court your own. Golly, I feel so prescient. Even before I submitted that last, McZoid fell into the bed he made. Perhaps he will learn something useful from it that will shape his posts at another site. Would "Not so much as all that," be the correct answer, Nimble Spemble? We were out of the country for much of his term in office, and anyway I have such a poor memory for figures. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-17 20:53 |
| #4 How much support did Clinton have? |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-08-17 20:40 |
| #3 McZoid, coverage is not suppressed. Not when, as you say, YouTube is overflowing with videos from both sides of the altercation. Both pro-Russians and pro-Georgians have posted freely on internet sites around the world, giving enough evidence for even a little housewife in the Midwestern suburbs to judge who is at fault. 'Twas you gave the figures on Saakashvili's popularity on which my post is based. I assume he is less popular now, but that happens; President Bush's popularity, or unpopularity if you like, is higher only than that of the U.S. Congress and the American legacy news media such as CNN and the New York Times, whose coverage of Russia's little war you so clearly dislike. And yet the president will remain in office until his successor is sworn into office next January, as is customary, and in the meantime will continue to run the country at home and abroad as the oath he swore 3 1/2 years ago keeps him honour bound to do. That's how our federal republic works. I understand that Canada chose to follow the English tradition, but it really isn't reasonable to expect the rest of the world to do things just the way you are accustomed to, my dear. You attack Fred again, and lotp. Having witnessed Zenster's self-engineered dismissal, it seems you choose to court your own. P.S. Anybody who aids that proudly self-described enthusiastic helper of the Nazis, Soros, should be kept from participating in elections. It is the job of a government to ensure that only legitimate and law-abiding citizens vote in elections. Holders of foreign passports, like the majority of newly-made Russian citizens in South Ossetia and Abkhazia perforce ought not be allowed on voter rolls. Perhaps if Russia had not been so busy manufacturing a causus bellum, those who so object to him could have cast their vote for the other guy back in 2004... although with what you say is an 80% popularity rating, the other guy likely wouldn't have won anyway. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-17 20:25 |
| #2 A little background would help for those of us ignorant of internal Georgian politics. Unless the point is that there is no such thing as internal Georgian politics, only the "Soros piglets" currently in charge. I didn't see any reference to the Tri-lateral commission or the Klan - shouldn't they have a role as well? |
| Posted by: Halliburton - Asymmetrical Reply Division 2008-08-17 16:40 |
| #1 Does this mean that Georgia is actually a true democracy with legitimate opposition parties? Separately, 53% of the vote is a straightforward majority, considerably better than some recent U.S. presidents have received -- although granted our first-past-the-post Electoral College system does not require popular majorities across the nation. Why complain about that, McZoid? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-17 12:57 |