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Home Front: Politix
Biden Takes Credit for Iraq Success
2008-09-09
Abe Greenwald - 09.08.2008 - 3:22 PM
Yesterday on Meet the Press, Tom Brokaw asked Joe Biden if the troop surge in Iraq had made possible the increased security and reconciliation we now see in that country. Here is Biden's answer:
SEN. BIDEN: No. The surge helped make that--what made is possible in Anbar province is they did what I'd suggested two and a half years ago: gave local control. They turned over and they said to the Sunnis in Anbar province, "We promise you, don't worry, you're not going to have any Shia in here. There's going to be no national forces in here. We're going to train your forces to help you fight al-Qaeda." And that you--what you had was the awakening. The awakening was not an awakening by us, it was an awakening of the Sunnis in Anbar province willing to fight.
So according to Joe Biden, the troop surge played a bit part in the turnaround of the Iraq War. The real catalyst? Joe Biden (with some help from the Sunnis). Let's revisit Biden's war plan and give the great military sage his due, shall we?

On May 1, 2006 Biden and Leslie H. Gelb wrote an op-ed for the New York Times entitled, "Unity Through Autonomy in Iraq," in which the authors proposed to
establish three largely autonomous regions with a viable central government in Baghdad. The Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite regions would each be responsible for their own domestic laws, administration and internal security. The central government would control border defense, foreign affairs and oil revenues. Baghdad would become a federal zone, while densely populated areas of mixed populations would receive both multisectarian and international police protection.
Three segregated regions with their own laws? Sure, that sounds exactly like what we see in Iraq today. It's not as if success in Iraq has come from Sunnis turning on Sunnis in al Qaeda, Shias turning on Shias in the Mahdi Army, and Kurds keeping Kurdish PKK terrorists in line. You're right, Senator. We haven't witnessed the Petraeus plan in action; it's the Biden plan. To think, some people still believe Iraq is one whole country with some Sunni neighborhoods, some Shi'ite neighborhoods, and some mixed neighborhoods, and that security forces are increasingly mixed affairs with both Sunnis and Shias fighting Sunnis and Shias, and that one set of laws apply to all citizens. Like Barack Obama recently said, "They must think you're stupid." But not me. I know we owe it all to Joe Biden. Thanks, Senator!
Posted by:Fred

#4  if we went large in 2003 this would of been such a yesterday issue

I don't necessarily think that's true, Dan. For that to be a tenable argument we'd have to believe that more troops would have prevented the insurgency in the first place, or would have tamped it down quickly before it got a toehold. But I think the Iraq insurgency's ideological energy would have been there regardless of how many troops we had on the ground in 03 and beyond, and, irrespective of which insurgency you look at throughout history, that ideological energy requires a certain amount of time to dissipate no matter what type of tactics you use against it.

What I’ve continued to hear from the counterinsurgency experts is that it normally takes about 10 years to successfully quell an insurgency. If that’s the case, then could it be that it would have only meant more US casualties had we “went large”? Just sayin...
Posted by: gb506   2008-09-09 12:46  

#3  well he sure can't take credit for the strategy that worked but...he was calling for increased troop levels as far back as 2005...if we went large in 2003 this would of been such a yesterday issue
Posted by: dan   2008-09-09 10:41  

#2  No AP he was in the "cut-up and run" camp instead.
Posted by: Glusose Hitler5394   2008-09-09 08:11  

#1  Um, excuse me, wasn't Biden one of the dorks who wanted to cut and run on the Iraqis?
Posted by: Angavigum Peacock2608   2008-09-09 07:29  

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