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| Limbaugh says Obama "stoking racism" |
| 2008-09-18 |
| Rush Limbaugh, featured in a new, Spanish-language Barack Obama ad, says the commercial distorts his past statements and amounts to "race-baiting" by the Democratic nominee. The commercial, to air in Limbaugh's home state of Florida as well as Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada, features a picture of the conservative talk show host and shows his words on the screen: "Mexicans are stupid and unqualified" and "Shut your mouth or get out." It was first reported by the Washington Post's Ed O'Keefe. "Obama is now stoking racism in the country," Limbaugh wrote in an email. "Obama is a disgrace - he wants the public to think he is Mr. Nice Guy while his thugs are in Alaska looking for dirt on Palin and he runs race-baiting ads and lies about what he has done and what McCain has done." As for the quotes, Limbaugh said they were taken out of context. The first, "stupid and unqualified," was from the NAFTA debate of the mid-90s, he recalled. Limbaugh, a NAFTA proponent, said in the fall of 1993 he got a call from a listener who was upset at the potential loss of American jobs. In response he said, "If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people--I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs, let the kinds of jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work." Explaining his comments, Limbaugh writes: "I was referring to jobs in MEXICO. I was not discussing immigrants, illegal or otherwise." On "shut your mouth," Limbaugh produced an April 2006 transcript from what he described as a parody of Mexican immigration laws. The talk show host read a list of stringent rules, adding "shut your mouth and get out," before revealing to listeners that the guidelines were those set by the Mexican government for immigrants. McCain launched his own Spanish-language ad last week blaming Obama for the collapse of immigration reform last week, striking a more moderate tone on the issue than his border security-focused stance in the GOP primary. Polls show Obama leading among Hispanic voters, but McCain is making an aggressive push for their support as they represent a key constituency in key states such as Florida and the competitive states in the intterior west. Rush Limbaugh, April 6, 2006: Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it The Limbaugh Laws: First: If you immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor; no unskilled workers allowed. Also, there will be no special bilingual programs in the schools with the Limbaugh Laws. No special ballots for elections. No government business will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote -- or hold political office. |
| Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC |
| #53 Barbara, Ima sooo sorry that the fat slime ball is stalking you. Damn!! what's the matter with him??? plz if there is any thing we can do just ask... |
| Posted by: Red Dawg 2008-09-18 21:50 |
| #52 Obama "stoking racism" and it other news water is wet and gravity leaves you feeling weighted down. |
| Posted by: Abu do you love 2008-09-18 20:51 |
| #51 heh - I feel good, exercising my new super-restraint powers! |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-09-18 20:00 |
| #50 I personally find him not only way too liberal, but wishy-washy; he never lets loose with how he really feels. |
| Posted by: Abdominal Snowman 2008-09-18 18:58 |
| #49 LOL, just Rush! Not you guys! |
| Posted by: Tarzan Angeter7567 2008-09-18 18:37 |
| #48 Can you be more specific, Tarzan? Me, Nimble, or Aris? |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-18 18:35 |
| #47 Sorry but I hate that fat pig! |
| Posted by: Tarzan Angeter7567 2008-09-18 18:33 |
| #46 I would never block you, Nimble. **Blush** |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-18 18:00 |
| #45 He ain't the only one. But I hope you'll let me down a little gentler. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 17:45 |
| #44 I think Aris has a crush on me. (Yecch!) He keeps e-mailing me - I suppose since he can't answer my posts on Rantburg. I had hoped that marking his mail "junk" would keep it from coming to my mailbox, but damned if he wasn't there again when I got home today. But never fear - I rooted around a little and found an option to block a particular e-mail address. Buh-bye, Aris. (Hoffentlich.) Don't go away mad, |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-18 17:35 |
| #43 "Aris, do you have any idea what a juvenile fucking idiot you Fixed that for ya', tu. :-D |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-18 15:35 |
| #42 As my grandmother used to tell me, "for every saddle there's an ass". As my DI would say, Aris, if we wanted any sh!t out of you we'd squeeze your head. |
| Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC 2008-09-18 15:04 |
| #41 Aris has been trolling here for years. |
| Posted by: Chris W. 2008-09-18 13:33 |
| #40 The man that runs the joint says he wants you gone. So...you're gone. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2008-09-18 13:26 |
| #39 Aris: go away. You are not wanted at Rantburg. We've been patient. But continue to post here and we'll have to get nasty. AoS. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2008-09-18 13:25 |
| #38 I guess that was a rhetorical question? |
| Posted by: Aris..Kat.saris,,, 2008-09-18 13:24 |
| #37 [Aris..Kat.sari...s has been pooplisted.] |
| Posted by: Aris..Kat.sari...s 2008-09-18 13:23 |
| #36 And yet "Anus" is allowed to remain. Don't you think that choice revelatory of the level of debate you seek for this forum, tu? |
| Posted by: Aris..Kat.sari...s 2008-09-18 13:21 |
| #35 Aris, do you have any idea what a juvenile fucking idiot you look like? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2008-09-18 13:21 |
| #34 That long, tu? Words fly. People don't talk carrying tape-recorders with them, and they're rarely upset that their words aren't recorded for posterity. |
| Posted by: Aris..Kat.saris.. 2008-09-18 13:18 |
| #33 So how long did it take you to write that, Aris? Cause it took me about three seconds to blow it away. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2008-09-18 13:12 |
| #32 What a surprise. |
| Posted by: Aris..Kat.saris. 2008-09-18 13:12 |
| #31 lollypop, if people say that Mexico is worse-off than America in pretty much everything, and that's why they don't support efforts to emulate Mexico on the matter of immigration, then why are they being hypocrites or anti-American? I'm somehow an anti-American or a hypocrite because I say that Mexico is worse in its laws than USA? Where's the hypocrisy or the anti-Americanism here? You see another amusing facet of my presence here is that in many MANY issues I support America far more than you people do. If I was bashing America for e.g. Roe vs Wade, and praising it for Iraq, I'd be right at home. But since I praise it for Roe vs Wade (or its gay rights, or its wall of separation between church and state, or its intervention in Bosnia, and many other issues), and bash it for Iraq, I'm considered an anti-American. So it's not my manners *OR* my supposed anti-Americanism. It's merely my specific positions, which are opposed to Bush. There's simply never been allowed anyone here who was liberal. Liberalhawk has only lasted as long as he did, by simply never speaking about his liberal positions. And Nimble, I was completely proven correct, wasn't I? All my own comments are removed, but yours remain, and so are some person's with kindergartener insults like changing my name to "Anus" -- as were all you people's comments about goatfucking, cunts, gay greek geeks and so forth. (By the way I use "you people" as a courtesy to Frank, who sometimes keeps thinking that my preferred "y'all" is meant as mockery or something) Anyway, yeah, you people have REALLY convinced me that it's my manners that are somehow at fault -- when your own level of discouse is synopsised with "Anus". |
| Posted by: Ar..is..Kat.saris 2008-09-18 13:09 |
| #30 Used to be. Somewhere around McGovern the socialist coopted the classical liberal tag and have been sinking the term since. Note their current attempts to steal old Teddy Roosevelt's 'progressive' tag. Shows how much the term liberal in American parlance has devalued that even they are running from it. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-09-18 12:54 |
| #29 ...and he spends most time poking and prodding the enemy, socialism (democrats). There's a difference? |
| Posted by: Raj 2008-09-18 12:50 |
| #28 Aris, Limbaugh is just trying to agitate the masses and strengthen their position against illegal immigration. Limbaugh pushes no plans of his own, but exposes the hypocracy of the left and other anti-American positions. His Limbaugh Laws are part of his schtick. I am a regular listener of his, and he spends most time poking and prodding the enemy, socialism (democrats). |
| Posted by: lollypop 2008-09-18 12:26 |
| #27 lol |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 12:25 |
| #26 OOPS, posted early. Anyway, they're always removing mine for some reason. |
| Posted by: Anus Katsaris 2008-09-18 12:16 |
| #25 But let us wait and see whose comments will be removed, yours or mine. |
| Posted by: Anus Katsaris 2008-09-18 12:16 |
| #24 Are those ones the sort of "manners" I should emulate, Nimble? Flippant dismissive one-liners about people off their meds? But let us wait and see whose comments will be removed, yours or mine. |
| Posted by: Aris...Katsaris 2008-09-18 12:09 |
| #23 DarthVader, the source is the exact article linked above. He gives his own desired recommendations to what should become American immigration law, then says "You think the Limbaugh Laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today! That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country." Is that a good enough quote for you? He HIMSELF SAYS that America ought mimic Mexico where the issue of immigration is concerned. "And I have watched you prance around slamming everything the US does with little to no facts in your arguments." I've always given links and always gone to the source (instead of relying on half-assed impressions). If there's any fact that's missing to my claims you're always free to ask for it -- though of course any comment of mine is deleted, as soon as I provide any annoying fact. |
| Posted by: Aris........Katsaris 2008-09-18 12:03 |
| #22 Put down the keyboard and take your meds. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 11:58 |
| #21 Well, since you are posting you can respond. Give examples with sources (sorry, the DU and KOSkiddies are NOT a source). Give a line by line comparison. Prove your point with facts. The only thing I have seen from you is crying. And I have watched you prance around slamming everything the US does with little to no facts in your arguments. That is why people don't like you. I don't agree much with LiberalHawk, but he backs up his arguments with facts and even though I don't agree with this conclusion of the data, I respect the fact he is willing to debate his conclusions with mine. You on the other had, just whine. And bitch. And blame the US. So, post some facts. Give sources. Give dates. Treat your argument as a research paper. Then, we will give much credence to your conclusions. Otherwise, you are just another anti-american EU stooge that can be banned and mocked/ignored. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-09-18 11:51 |
| #20 Yes, Nimble, I'm sure that's exactly the reason that even the most polite post of mine is removed, while even the posts by the people that call me a goatfucking cunt are retained. It must obviously have been my manners. |
| Posted by: Aris.......Katsaris 2008-09-18 11:47 |
| #19 Wrong, troll. It was your manners. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 11:45 |
| #18 Since I'm not allowed to respond to you, "DarthVader", what's the point? I've proven that he wants America to turn into Mexico where issues of immigration are concerned: Quoted him exactly when he makes the recommendations, quoted where he admits that they are carbon-copies of the Mexican immigration law. Been specific with my questions and points I raise -- but my comments are always removed, as any attempt at actual discussion is in this forum. People keep forgetting that the reason I was banned was not because I was a troll, or my manners, or whatever, but rather because I had half dozen regulars trailing me all over the forum, not actually responding to anything I said but rather merely saying things like "Aris the Gay Greek Geek, what a goatfucking cunt he is" So instead of banning half a dozen regulars, they decided to ban me instead. That's pretty much the reason I don't respect my ban: Because I've not violated a single guideline of this forum -- it's the other people that have. |
| Posted by: Aris......Katsaris 2008-09-18 11:43 |
| #17 They are the only ones "Stoking Racism". They want class war and class envy. It is the only way they can get their communist ideas to pass. Posted by DarthVader Divide and Conquer is a valid strategy. Our national motto, United We Stand, even warns us against it. And this is what all politics has become, marketing to different "member bases" or whatever you want to call it. It's crap. We need leaders who can lead by example, which is WHY Gov. Palin is causing such a stir. |
| Posted by: DLR 2008-09-18 11:28 |
| #16 Oh and Aris, if you get that Rush wants the USA to turn into Mexico, you are a f***ing idiot. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-09-18 11:13 |
| #15 The only people talking about race is .... Dhimocrats. They are the only ones "Stoking Racism". They want class war and class envy. It is the only way they can get their communist ideas to pass. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-09-18 11:12 |
| #14 Classer They've had campaign ads in Espanol for the last several elections. These ads won't fly in south Florida; Cuban immigrants are conservative all the way. |
| Posted by: Chris W. 2008-09-18 10:40 |
| #13 You are a dear, Nimble Spemble. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-09-18 10:25 |
| #12 For those do not know [vice those who really don't care], here's Article 33 of the Mexican Constitution - "Of Foreigners Article 33 - Foreigners are those who do not possess the qualities determined in Article 30. They have the right to the guarantees of Chapter I of the first title of this Constitution, but the Executive of the Union has the exclusive right to expel from the national territory, immediately and without necessity of judicial proceedings, all foreigners whose stay it judges inconvenient. Foreigners may not, in any manner, involve themselves in the political affairs of the country." Note well the last sentence which Rush's comment is based upon. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-09-18 09:24 |
| #11 [Aris....Katsaris has been pooplisted] |
| Posted by: Aris....Katsaris 2008-09-18 09:09 |
| #10 the latter, OK |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-09-18 08:42 |
| #9 Well, yes. But I'm trying to turn over a new leaf. The kinder, gentler Spemble. Or I'm working on my TW impression. Is that more credible? |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 08:39 |
| #8 "interesting" as in "creepy little stalker dweeb who's unwanted, even by his Mom"? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-09-18 08:31 |
| #7 An interesting personality that keeps returning where it's clearly been indicated it's not welcome. Just making work for Mods. What does he have against them? Is there no place other than Rantburg that can give this waif the attention he so pathetically craves? No wonder Greece has so many problems. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 08:28 |
| #6 My point was that turning America into Mexico would NOT be an improvement -- and yet that's exactly what Limbaugh admits of supporting. I heard that entire segment yesterday; you must not listen to Rush very much. I would be hard pressed to find in that, or any other segment, where Rush supports turning the USA into Mexico. |
| Posted by: Raj 2008-09-18 08:12 |
| #5 Like the UK? It would indeed be an improvement, but I'd prefer Ireland since I'm a lower-r republican. My point was that turning America into Mexico would NOT be an improvement -- and yet that's exactly what Limbaugh admits of supporting. |
| Posted by: Aris...Katsaris 2008-09-18 07:56 |
| #4 Aris wants Greece to be just like the UK only with greeks instead of the English. |
| Posted by: .5MT 2008-09-18 07:21 |
| #3 "You think the Limbaugh Laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today!" So the bottomline is that Rush Limbaugh wants America to be just like Mexico, except with English-speaking and paler folk. And his Democrat opponents want America to be completely unlike Mexico, and they don't particularly care about the language or skin-color. |
| Posted by: Aris..Katsaris 2008-09-18 06:53 |
| #2 [.Aris Katsaris has been pooplisted.] |
| Posted by: .Aris Katsaris 2008-09-18 04:23 |
| #1 new, Spanish-language Barack Obama ad & McCain launched his own Spanish-language ad How many votes does the spanish speaking population hold that they get their own language commercials? |
| Posted by: Classer 2008-09-18 02:06 |