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Afghanistan
US wants NATO to ante up: $20bn to fund Afghanistan effort
2008-09-19
The US is seeking $20bn from its allies to help stabilise Afghanistan as it plans to send thousands more of its own troops to confront the growing insurgency in the country, American officials disclosed yesterday.

Robert Gates, the American defence secretary, said the US was considering a fundamental review of its strategy. But his message was clear - the US expected countries which did not contribute troops to Afghanistan to contribute money instead. "Lessons had been learned from Iraq ...that means more forces," Gates told journalists in London.

General David McKiernan, the US commander in Afghanistan, has asked the Pentagon for three more American brigades in addition to the extra one already announced by President Bush and due to be deployed in January. This would increase the number of US troops in Afghanistan, at present numbering 30,000, to nearly 44,000.

It remains unclear, however, whether Britain will increase its military presence in the country after the bulk of the 4,000-strong garrison now stationed at Basra airport leaves Iraq, as expected, in the first half of next year. There are now about 7,800 British troops in Afghanistan. Gates, in London for a meeting of Nato defence ministers, said that "the UK may increase the size of its force [in Afghanistan]".

Gates said he expected "substantial commitments" from other allies for other purposes. "One of the issues I will be raising at the [Nato] meeting is that we need as an alliance and with our partners to figure out a way to help pay for [doubling] the size of the Afghan army," he said. "The capability of the Afghan army ultimately is the exit strategy."

A US official said yesterday that the plan was to double the size of the Afghan army from the present 65,000 in five years. That would cost an estimated $20bn. "We can see what those countries which are not contributing troops can contribute financially," he said. That plan, which could include countries outside Nato, such as Japan, "makes sense", he said.

Admiral Michael Mullen told the US congress last week he was "not convinced we're winning it in Afghanistan".

Gates referred to "increasing challenges" and a more complex conflict. It was not just a fight between foreign forces and the Taliban, he said. He referred to "a kind of syndicate working together" consisting of the Taliban, foreign fighters, and supporters of Gulbertin Hekmatiyar, an Islamist militia leader. "Syndicates of different players [present] a different kind of challenge," Gates said. He added: "Clearly a piece of the problem is governance and corruption fuelled by the narcotics trade."
Posted by:Steve White

#12  might not need all that cash if a neighboring barbarian area was modified to glassland.
Posted by: 3dc   2008-09-19 22:44  

#11  I see the $ sign but wouldn't they be paying in euros? ha!

As to Adm Mullen, we should hang on every word or haven't you noticed - the Dept of the Navy is methodically taking over the world. Not really a bad thing IMHO. ;~)
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident   2008-09-19 22:40  

#10  Not to mention the fact that supplies don't just show up at the ports in Pakistan out of thin air ....
Posted by: lotp   2008-09-19 19:52  

#9  Ok, and what part of Afghanistan has a shoreline? Then what exactly is the good Admiral's opinion worth again?

Admiral Mullen is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS).

The JCS is responsible for ensuring personnel readiness, policy, planning and training of their respective military services. The JCS also act as military advisors to the President and the Secretary of Defense.

As such, Admiral Mullen is working within his capacity as senior military advisor and his opinion matters.
Posted by: Pappy   2008-09-19 17:01  

#8  Admiral Michael Mullen told the US congress last week he was "not convinced we're winning it in Afghanistan".

Ok, and what part of Afghanistan has a shoreline?

Then what exactly is the good Admiral's opinion worth again?
Posted by: DLR   2008-09-19 16:09  

#7  I dunno. Using a calculator, the cost of Afghani troops = $300,000 each. Just for the new ones. Sounds high to me. Let us open the books.

Are you taking into consideration officer training(academy/local)?

Senior-officer training?

How about training NCOs and SNCOs?

Technical training?

Continuing-training of troops?
Posted by: Pappy   2008-09-19 15:37  

#6  Admiral Michael Mullen told the US congress last week he was "not convinced we're winning it in Afghanistan".

Seems like one should say what is required to win and then go about getting this and then go about winning.
Posted by: JohnQC   2008-09-19 14:41  

#5  I had no idea flaming turbans was that high. My brother and I should start a business of it and put in a low-ball bid. Anyone else want in on this?
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-09-19 14:29  

#4  I've a better idea. Britain could start a program of enlisting its overcrowded prisons as "noncombatant" and unarmed soldiers in Afghanistan. Your basic labor battalions. And if they wanted to desert and join the Taliban, well, wouldn't that be a shame?

A win-win.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-09-19 10:30  

#3  Wouldn't the 300,000 also cover the cost of the trainers and equipment? It may not be THAT high... I don't know.
Posted by: Free Radical   2008-09-19 07:12  

#2  I dunno. Using a calculator, the cost of Afghani troops = $300,000 each. Just for the new ones. Sounds high to me. Let us open the books.
Posted by: Vanc   2008-09-19 03:45  

#1  Add another bil or two to buy up the poppies while you're at it. Or Afgh farmers could sell their harvest to the global pharma companies.
Posted by: tep   2008-09-19 03:09  

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