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Afghanistan
'Grim' Afghanistan Report To Be Kept Secret by US
2008-09-23
US intelligence analysts are putting the final touches on a secret National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Afghanistan that reportedly describes the situation as "grim", but there are "no plans to declassify" any of it before the election, according to one US official familiar with the process.

Officials say a draft of the classified NIE, representing the key judgments of the US intelligence community's 17 agencies and departments, is being circulated in Washington and a final "coordination meeting" of the agencies involved, under the direction of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, is scheduled in the next few weeks.

According to people who have been briefed, the NIE will paint a "grim" picture of the situation in Afghanistan, seven years after the US invaded in an effort to dismantle the al Qaeda network and its Taliban protectors.

Spokesperson for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Vanee Vines, said "it is not the ODNI's policy to publicly comment on national intelligence products that may or may not be in production."

The finished secret NIE would be sent to the White House and other policy makers.

Mike McConnell, the director of National Intelligence, has made it his policy that such key judgments "should not be declassified", although several have recently, including a report on Iran's nuclear ambitions. "That does not portend that this is going to become a standard practice," McConnell said it a guidance memo last year.

Last week, Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Congress "we're running out of time" in Afghanistan. "I'm not convinced we're winning it in Afghanistan," Adm. Mullen testified.

Perhaps foreshadowing the NIE assessment on Afghanistan, Adm. Mullen told Congress, "absent a broader international and interagency approach to the problems there, it is my professional opinion that no amount of troops in no amount of time can ever achieve all the objectives we seek in Afghanistan."
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#13  A copy of the NIE has already made it's way to the NYT, who will sit on the story till Nov 1st.
Posted by: Skunky Glins 5***   2008-09-23 20:18  

#12  I have little patience for the war in Afghanistan. Unless the Pak's get serious, there is no way we are going to win there. Flattening the tribal areas while trying to remain in A-stan is NOT an option. Other than not wanting another hell-hole failed state (which the tribal areas are anyway, with Pakistan close behind) what is the upside of the years and years and billions it is going to take to get this place to a point where it can be regarded as a normal state? Rathole if you ask me.
Posted by: remoteman   2008-09-23 19:37  

#11  #8 Richard of Oregon has it about 110% right. We've got lots going on in Djibouti(military & civilian), we're advising the Ethiopians and Kenyans, Dept of the Navy did a little stretching, warm up sorties into Somalia in January and February of this year, President Bush proved our commitment to the Africans in general by stemming the tide of AIDS/HIV with billions in Rx, doctors and education starting back in '01 and continuing to this day. Africa is where we'll bleed 'em till they get the point. Probably get the Chinese on board when the jihadis start interrupting their commerce.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident   2008-09-23 19:22  

#10  Alexander the Great also got in trouble here

In the 4th century B.C., Alexander the Great fell afoul of Pashtun tribesmen in today's Malakand Agency, where he took an arrow in the leg and almost lost his life. Two millennia later the founder of the Mogul empire, Babur, described the tribesmen of the area now known as Waziristan as unmanageable; his main complaint seemed to center on his inability to get them to pay their taxes by handing over their sheep, let alone stop to attacking his armies. A couple of hundred years later, in the middle of the 19th century, the British experienced disaster after disaster as they tried to bring the same Pashtun tribes to heel, particularly in the agencies of North and South Waziristan. In 1893, after half a century of jockeying for position with Imperial Russia in the "Great Game," the British administrator of the northwest of Queen Victoria's Indian Empire, Sir Mortimer Durand, demarcated the border between India — now Pakistan — and Afghanistan. The Durand line, as it is still known to foreigners — the Pashtuns call it "zero line" and completely ignore it — separated the tribes on both sides of the line into 26 agencies, each with its own laws and tribal councils. It was this area that became the buffer between the British and Russian Empires, an agreed-upon "middle of the lake." The tribes were then left mostly to themselves for about 80 years.

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-09-23 18:12  

#9  Maybe we can get them to move to Chechnya.. give Putie something to keep him occupied instead of muscling in on his neighbors
Posted by: Solomon Granter5477   2008-09-23 18:02  

#8  As I understand it, the adversary there has changed. An infusion of well-trained, well-equipped militants from Iraq means we have to rise to the occasion. If Afghan and Pak governments get serious, it becomes very doable. The experience AQ's get caught in a border squeeze and squirt out to cause trouble someplace else. Northern Africa?
Posted by: Richard of Oregon   2008-09-23 17:18  

#7  I don't get why anyone expects Afghanistan to become Wisconsin when that place has never been united or even functional. That we should spend blood and treasure to do so is insane. All we should care about it is that they never again be used as a launch point to attack us and the dire consequences clearly explained to them.
Posted by: ed   2008-09-23 17:11  

#6  Hand wringing admirals be damned! I want to hear General David Petreaus' assessment.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-09-23 16:48  

#5  Great Iraq report to be kept secret by MSM.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-09-23 16:31  

#4  IMHO we lost Afghanistan as soon as we invited NATO.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2008-09-23 16:21  

#3  I suspect that this is yet another "election contingency plan", and intentionally negative report purely for political reasons.

Clearly, by what we know of the situation, it sucks, because unlike Iraq, Afghanistan to a great extent *is* like Vietnam, but instead of Laos and Cambodia giving free run to insurgents, there is half the border shared with Pakistan.

That is, until we can freely smite the troublemakers, they can endlessly trickle across the border an endless supply of thugs to create trouble and keep Afghanistan destabilized.

That is a no-win.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-09-23 16:19  

#2  Perhaps the same ones that said Iran quite working on nuclear bombs back in 2003, Sherry.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-09-23 15:46  

#1  It this report from the same folks that reported Anbar was lost?
Posted by: Sherry   2008-09-23 15:43  

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