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Home Front: Politix
Obama's Convenient Credit Card Fraud Bringing In Millions?
2008-10-23
Just found this GREAT article: Kudos To Atlas Shrugs
UPDATE 10:21PM : Reader Randall contributed under the names of Obama's friends Osama, Saddam and Ayers -

I went back to the Obama site and made three additional donations using the names Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Bill Ayers, all with different addresses. All the transactions went thru using the same credit card. I saved screen shots of the transactions if you want them

There is enormous amount of money being secreted into the Obama campaign from foreign sources. It is fairly safe to say these countries will be richly rewarded - Kenya, Indonesia but most of all - Obama will drop a load on the UN. Fosho.

The crooked, corrupt international one world global warmers have the largest stake in this election.

Back on August 14th, I wrote that Julia Gorin told me a funny story. About four months ago. Her husband's co-worker wanted to see what would happen if he tried giving a contribution to the Obama campaign via a credit card. He used his Macy's card. The system accepted it. He tried the same with McCain's campaign, and the transaction wouldn't go through.

Atlas reader Craig submits to me the following:

I may have just uncovered how the Obama campaign is facilitating massive donation fraud.

I've read recent reports of the Obama campaign receiving donations from dubious names and foreign locales and it got me wondering; how is this possible?

I run a small internet business and when I process credit cards I'm required to make sure the name on the card exactly matches the name of the customer making the purchase. Also, the purchasers address must match that of the cardholders. If these don't match, then the payment isn't approved. Period. So how is it possible that the Obama campaign could receive donations from fictional people and places? Well, I decided to do a little experiment. I went to the Obama campaign website and entered the following:

Name: John Galt
Address: 1957 Ayn Rand Lane
City: Galts Gulch
State: CO
Zip: 99999

Then I checked the box next to $15 and entered my actual credit card number and expiration date (it didn't ask for the 3-didgit code on the back of the card) and it took me to the next page and... "Your donation has been processed. Thank you for your generous gift."

This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or any campaign that is honestly trying to vet it's donors. Also, I don't see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit card companies. They simply wouldn't allow any business to process, potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where the name on the card doesn't match the purchasers name.

Not unless Obama's campaign is warehousing donations (held back) and any that fail or are rejected by the credit card companies or for any other reason are covered by illegal donations.

In short, with the system set up as it is by the Obama camp, an individual could donate unlimited amounts of money by simply making up fake names and addresses. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate this fraud. This is truly scandalous.

Yes, and then cover them with illegal funds.

Sincerely,

Craig

PS I tried the exact same thing at the McCain site and it didn't allow the transaction.

Pss I went back to the Obama site and made three additional donations using the names Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Bill Ayers, all with different addresses. All the transactions went thru using the same credit card. I saved screen shots of the transactions if you want them

Cathy found this at Free Republic:

Somebody, high up, has access to millions of credit card, and possibly debit card accounts. This is how it works: An apparent charge appears on your account, then through the correction process, it disappears. An unauthorized charge delivers the funds to control of an intermediary, and the intermediary then reimburses the original draft on the account. The intermediary is a wealthy consortium of manipulators, who take the small contribution (always less than $200, so as to avoid the reporting requirements of name and occupation of the original source), thus providing hundreds of thousands, or even millions, of "contributors", and allowing ineligible contributors to cover up their participation. It would take the research of literally thousands of these accounts to uncover the pattern of "mistaken" charges, and if these accounts are held outside the US, there would be no overview of these transaction by any of the authorities that govern these transfers in this country. The only check on this is to review your own account, and those who had their accounts used in this manner. If individuals or corporate entities are already supporting Obama, or the Democrat National party, or any of the 527s that are anti-Republican, THEY are not going to say anything.


Couple Finds Unauthorized Charge on Credit Card from Obama Campaign (hat tip Miira)

Atlas exclusive coverage of Obama's contributions: foreign, domestic, illegal

UPDATE: from Mccain's website, Cathy grabbed this screenshot - On the form:

The address below must match your credit card billing information and they ask for your security code too.
Posted by:Lftbhndagn

#27  I have no problem with my President being black ... or having brown eyes ... or having blond hair ... or whatever. I *do* have a problem with my President being a Socialist (being kind with that term ... "Marxist" is more accurate

ANd I understand that's the Dirty Little Religion Europe and the UK has these days: Marxist Statism.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2008-10-23 21:19  

#26  Just have 0bama (The One; The Twelfth Imam, etc) produce a valid birth certificate, as required in our Constitution, and we'll be "Good to go"...
Posted by: Asymmetrical Triangulation    2008-10-23 20:52  

#25  Next time the US has a Republican president, it should invadde the UK and then 1) Make British pay taxes on tea. And 2) Force them to bow to Americans, even the humblest one.

Once they have learned to chew gum, drag knuckles, tot guns and pound bibles they would be allowed to apply for statehood provided their cuisine reach human standards.
Posted by: JFM   2008-10-23 18:13  

#24  Ifor1amstunned
Posted by: .5MT   2008-10-23 17:55  

#23  Slats posts from the UK.
Posted by: Pappy   2008-10-23 17:33  

#22  "Ruled" and "bow down" ... I think it's pretty obvious that Slats doesn't get what we do over here.

I have no problem with my President being black ... or having brown eyes ... or having blond hair ... or whatever. I *do* have a problem with my President being a Socialist (being kind with that term ... "Marxist" is more accurate).

And that's speaking as a pragmatic moderate.
Posted by: ExtremeModerate   2008-10-23 17:29  

#21  And Mr. Slats, while you are doing the recommended reading, please remember to keep a glass of water handy. It will help keep your lips from drying out as you work through the 'big' words.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-10-23 15:57  

#20  Ok, Slats....repeat after me....."I'd rather be a homeless junkie in New York City than king of (insert your country here)."
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2008-10-23 14:11  

#19  Besoeker, you forgot the fist-bump. ;)
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2008-10-23 14:09  

#18  #17 Americans don't bow to the president, Slats Flater8460

But isn't there a special handshake, nod, or shoulder-dip-slide gate with this one?
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-10-23 13:02  

#17  Americans don't bow to the president, Slats Flater8460. We shake hands as equals. If your mother did not teach you good manners, your time would be well spent reading in Emily Post or Miss Manners, both of which should be available at your local public library or for purchase from Amazon.
Posted by: trailing wife   2008-10-23 12:15  

#16  That's okay, Slats. Now us rednecks get our chance to blame THE MAN!
Posted by: tu3031   2008-10-23 12:05  

#15  Hello Reverend Wright! I see you finally got hooked up that internet thingy.
Posted by: ed   2008-10-23 12:02  

#14  hehe, all you rednecks are going to be ruled by a black man... thats so funny.

I'll be funny to see how patriotic you all are about your president then (having supported looneytunes Bush as he bankrupted your country and many of its people under the guise of "patriotism").

Hehe, you are going to have to bow to a black man (well half black). Thats so funny.
Posted by: Slats Flater8460   2008-10-23 11:57  

#13  Just another way The One is helping to spread the wealth....
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2008-10-23 11:15  

#12  #6 People who don't "get it" think this is no big deal. They are WRONG.

Everyone "gets it." When Obama turned down Fed Finance at the last minute, many saw it coming. The FBI has been investigating Nigerian internet credit card fraud for years. The Dept. of Justice and FBI can't even shut ACORN down. They will do absolutely nothing about the Obama credit card donation scam.

Recommend we start by asking the Administration and DOJ to energize the following Ambo's (who may have something in common) to have their FBI Legat offices take a discreet look around:

US Ambo to Nigeria: Robin R. Sanders
US Ambo to Liberia: Linda Thomas-Greenfield
US Ambo Ivory Coast: Wanda L. Nesbitt
US Ambo Zimbabwe: James McGee
US Ambo Namibia: Gail D. Mathieu
US Ambo Swaziland: Maurice S. Parker
US Ambo South Africa: Eric M. Bost
US Ambo Trinidad & Tobago: Roy L. Austin
US Ambo Niger: Bernadette M. Allen
US Ambo Senegal & Guinea-Bissau: Marcia Bernicat
US Ambo Benin: Gayleatha B. Brown




Posted by: Besoeker   2008-10-23 11:13  

#11  Money laundering and communist buddies. They go together nicely.

from gatewaypunditblogspot - the newest guy to surface in support of Obama:

. . . "Klonsky is an unabashed communist whose current mission is to spread Marxist ideology in the American classroom. Obama funded him to the tune of nearly $2 million. Obama, moreover, gave Klonsky a broad platform to broadcast his ideas: a “social justice” blog on the official Obama campaign website.

To be clear, as it seems always necessary to repeat when Obamaniacs, in their best Saul Alinsky tradition, shout down the opposition: This is not about guilt by association. The issue is not that Obama knows Klonsky Â… or Ayers Â… or Dohrn Â… or Wright Â… or Rashid Khalidi Â…

The issue is that Obama promoted and collaborated with these anti-American radicals. The issue is that he shared their ideology.

...When Obama and Ayers collaborated together on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) education-reform project, with Obama chairing the board that oversaw funding decisions, CAC underwrote the Klonsky/Ayers Small Schools Workshop with a whopping $1,056,162. And thatÂ’s not all. Nearly another million dollars was steered to the Small Schools Workshop by the Joyce and Woods Funds when Obama sat on their boards. The grand total comes to $1,968,718.

. . . Remember-- Old Maoists and terrorists never die... They just teach. "

Obama is used to laundering money and hiding it from the "system." All communists work this way.

Oh, and about the "code word" SOCIALIST being a code word for "black"-code words are used when you want to hide information. I think everyone knows Obama is black (well, kind of black, but never mind . . . )

Posted by: ex-lib   2008-10-23 11:12  

#10  If Obama wins, well, then I'm sure those same people will all get promoted.

After Zapatero's victory there werr lots of promotions between those policmene who, for instance destroyed vital pieces of evidency about the bombings.
Posted by: JFM   2008-10-23 10:43  

#9  is anyone in charge of protecting us from voter fraud or violations of election rules? It seems not. If McCain wins, we need to spend the next 4 years making sure that those who failed in their duties are exposed and fired. If Obama wins, well, then I'm sure those same people will all get promoted.
Posted by: Betty   2008-10-23 10:27  

#8  I believe LL's scam involved using the CC# of people who did NOT want to donate. They complained. LL went to jail.

This is different.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks   2008-10-23 10:06  

#7  Hey! That's my scam!
Posted by: Lyndon Larouche   2008-10-23 09:53  

#6  People who don't "get it" think this is no big deal. They are WRONG.

People who have credit cards but are NOT allowed to give to an American election are giving a phony name and US address that is not being verified.

Obama likes it because he gets money.
The credit card companies like it; they collect 3% on every transaction. Bonus: The senator from MBNA gets to be VP.
I suppose that the US Justice dept could datamine the CC# with verified addresses. The problems here are an Obama DOJ that does not act and CC companies and foreign governments not cooperating with information requests.

Bottom line: the money moves to Obama and everyone with standing looks the other way.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks   2008-10-23 09:35  

#5  We are screwed big time. There is no one home at DoJ or the FEC. McCain is being hoisted on his own petard. And, this will not go away but continue to be perpetrated and operate at a different level during Obama's presidency. This is only the beginning of America's worst nightmare since Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2008-10-23 09:10  

#4  I'm not up on election laws but I don't believe that accepting small anonymous donations is a violation

I am a a furriner but AFAIK there are tops on what an individuual or organization may contribute. There ios a lso a banning on accepting, contributions from other countries or foreign perosns or orgnaizations.

And your "unobjectionable" anonymous donations are ideal for laundring illegal donations.
Posted by: JFM   2008-10-23 08:29  

#3  I follow credit card fraud closely - it's what I do. I've seen this on one media website - the rest has been on blogs and most refer back to the original article. I have to wonder about the validity of the whole thing.

I'm not up on election laws but I don't believe that accepting small anonymous donations is a violation. I can tell you that it might be a violation of their contract with their payment processor and it's clearly a bad idea security wise but consider this...

If the "Donald Duck" card is being used without permission, the real card holder is probably going to have the charge reversed and that's going to cost the campaign money - they'll loose the donation and pay a chargeback fee in the neighborhood of $15-$35 for each transaction.

Tom Mahoney, Director
Merchant911.org
Posted by: Tom Mahoney   2008-10-23 08:11  

#2  "I saved screen shots of the transactions if you want them"

Where's the screen shots and the billing statement? 1/2 story
Posted by: Sheba Jeger8491   2008-10-23 05:21  

#1  I was feeling left out so I had "Capitalist Tool"-with completely fictitious contact info-make a $5 donation. Obama site took it no problem. I'll veify tomorrow with the credit card company. If that payment went through then there is something seriously hinky going on that would involve collusion with the credit card processors.
Posted by: Large Hupusonter1014   2008-10-23 02:16  

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