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2008-10-23
I've decided to add "Seedy Politicians" to the Burg to cover corruption, since 1.) I expect B.O. to win the election and 2.) I expect the Dems to line up at the trough like never before -- not that I intend to ignore the Publicans, whom I expect to be wetting their little beaks right next to the Sinners, nor the occasional Euro or even African or Antarctican.

My problem is that I don't know whether to make it a category or page. I'm torn both ways:
  • A category will allow the new version Tammany Ring to be covered from all angles, whether they have anything to do with WoT or not.

  • Giving them their own page will allow the Burg to continue in business even as they're shutting down the War on Terror (prior to asking why the previous administration wasn't on the ball when downtown D.C. disappears in a fireball and they have to move the capital to San Francisco), and until they get around to shutting down opposition press, of which Rantburg will naturally be a part.
I think I'm leaning toward Page 6, but I'm not quite sure. Your opinion should help with my indecisiveness.
Posted by:Fred

#44  If you want to be nice...
call it "Tammany Hall"
if you want to be edgy
call it "da Wardheeler"
O'man will know what you mean.
Posted by: 3dc   2008-10-23 23:05  

#43  give politix it's own page

politics... from the Greek: poli meaning more than one, and tick a blood-sucking parasite.
Posted by: Abu do you love   2008-10-23 22:44  

#42  AP:
Liberal seedy corrupt politicians are gonna cost us lives and destroy civilization because they will gut the military, take kickbacks, open the borders, tax us to death to make sure we don't discriminate against illegal aliens and cover them 100% with welfare and medical benefits paid for by 5% of the population(new math or poor schools?), give all their radical buddies key jobs in the government to siphon more out the red budget, shell out our taxdollars/carboncredits to foreigners who hate us, write laws with loopholes to exclude themselves, and keep our nation so weak the terrorists can afford to focus on destroying Israel, as we will have been destoyed by enemies from within. When radicals like Farrakhan and Khaddaffi, and even Al Jazeera, endorse Obama, and with Congress led by Reid and Pelosi, well, if that doesn't terrorize you and seem pertinent to the idealogical war on on terror, maybe you need to broaden your horizons. It would be so much simpler if we could fight all fronts militarily, as they seem to be the only ones who really "get it" when it comes to the cost of freedom. Rantburg warriors have many weapons at their disposal, and sometimes the enemy target is a politician. Keep up the good work, Fred, as someone has to keep an eye on things.
Posted by: Thealing Borgia 122   2008-10-23 22:41  

#41  Let's concentrate mainly on the politicians that are the enemy within. Maybe a separate category for them.

That would be about 90% or of them I suspect.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-10-23 22:05  

#40  This all seems like rearranging desk chairs on the Titanic. Sorry, I am in a dark mood. Rantburg is for rants and it is WOT related, meaning enemies trying to destroy the US and western civilization from external and internal forces. This still should be our main focus.

If you want to talk about seedy and corrupt politicians, than that should be in a separate blog. Let's concentrate mainly on the politicians that are the enemy within. Maybe a separate category for them.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2008-10-23 21:57  

#39  Page 6, but with titties
Posted by: Frank G   2008-10-23 20:28  

#38  I'm mostly a 'lurker', but SEEDY is too nice a descript, I like 'SCUM' better. Why stop at just politicians? There's a lot more of those who play the political system, lobbyists, CEos, the MSM, etc..
Posted by: Tom- Pa   2008-10-23 20:26  

#37  Actually, the "Good Morning" girl either should be on page 3 (British practice) or on page 6 (NY Post practice).
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2008-10-23 20:11  

#36  I grew up in Cincinnati, so Porkopolis is taken, but Porkburg would fit in the linklist nicely next to Thugburg.
Posted by: Don Vito Omeling5062   2008-10-23 19:37  

#35  "'Lurid Crime Tales' on the Seedy Politicians' page seems really redundant."

ROFL, Fred. Ain't it the truth.

I vote for "Seedy Politicians" (though I do think that's redundant).

I really vote for "Arrogant Assholes" but I understand you want to be mature and take the high road the 'Burg has a reputation to maintain. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-10-23 18:24  

#34  "You are again slipping into the trap of alienating dems who need to be part of the WOT."

If a DemoncRat decides it's OK for islamonazis and others to attack this country just because somebody here says something they don't like, fuck 'em. That kind of loser asshole isn't interested in the security of our country anyway, Grampaw.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-10-23 18:20  

#33  Page 6, if anyone cares what a lurker thinks.
Posted by: Total War   2008-10-23 17:55  

#32  I think there are a plethora of other sites that cover politics from a variety of perspectives. I don't think it is central to the mission of the Burg, or at least my interpretation of that mission. At least some of us need to stay focused on the stuff that could get our countrymen killed, and likely will under the coming weak-kneed administration. I vote punt or put a category on page 3.
Posted by: remoteman   2008-10-23 16:14  

#31  I would just open a new site called "the socialist corner" or anyother synonym (liberal not liberty, illuminati, the left-wing, progressive page, elitists only)
Posted by: Glurong Mussolini6100   2008-10-23 15:55  

#30  you will have too develop another whole alter internet for enough space for all of them
Posted by: chris   2008-10-23 15:53  

#29  My opinion: seedy politicians.
At present time they are a far greater threat to our way of life than classically kinetic terror ops.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks   2008-10-23 15:35  

#28  If I was designing the Burg from the ground up now, given today's lineup, I'd probably have pages 1 and 2 the way they are now, page 3 for commies, page 4 for other bloody-handed dictators, 5 for crooked pols, and 6 for Malefactors of Great Wealth. Pages 7, 8 & 9 would be editorials, local, and the funnies.
Posted by: Fred   2008-10-23 15:32  

#27  Page 6.

There's a shot for "non-filers syndrome". .45, I believe.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2008-10-23 15:31  

#26  "Crooks & Liars"
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2008-10-23 15:14  

#25  You are again slipping into the trap of alienating dems who need to be part of the WOT. Bad idea to make this a party issue, which you do even though you say you don't. Leave the pols to other sites.
Posted by: Grampaw Omomonter7538   2008-10-23 14:51  

#24  And here's your first story...

We'll bet even the IRS hasn't heard this one yet. Gov. Paterson's chief of staff now says he owed nearly $300,000 in back taxes, $100,000 more than was previously known - and his lawyer blamed the problem on "non-filer syndrome."

Charles O'Byrne's attorney, Richard Kestenbaum, mentioned the virtually unheard-of ailment at a briefing for reporters intended to quell the firestorm surrounding O'Byrne's failure to file income-tax returns from 2001 to 2005.

O'Byrne, 49, a former Jesuit priest with close ties to the Kennedy family, has already blamed his neglect to file - first reported by The Post - on clinical depression.

Kestenbaum said yesterday O'Byrne also had "non-filer syndrome."

"Many times, that syndrome causes them not to be able to file their tax returns," he explained.

Rhondalee Dean-Royce, a spokeswoman for the American Psychiatric Association, said there is no such disorder or syndrome in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a standard reference.

Plenty of professionals don't file because they're too busy or too depressed or because of a family tragedy, said IRS spokesman Larry Wright. But he's never heard of non-filer syndrome.

Other tax experts found the concept ridiculous.

"Yes, it's quite common," one Manhattan accountant joked. "A hundred percent of my clients suffer from this syndrome, and it gets especially bad every year as April 15th approaches."
Posted by: tu3031   2008-10-23 14:38  

#23  page 6 is a good idea. label doesn't really matter, but it will be difficult to keep input focused, i think. f'rinstance; would greenpeace / global warming/cooling be a political entry or still the basic page 5 duty nutcase entry?

at the end of the day. it's Fred's toybox and he can divvy up his toys however he see's fit; thank you for being a gracious host and asking us interlopers what we think.....
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-10-23 14:32  

#22  I thought "Todays Idiot" covered this....
Posted by: Muggsy Glink   2008-10-23 14:27  

#21  It could be more inclusive by calling it "Scoundrels & Fools", which would be complementary to "Lurid Crime Tales". Separately, there could be "Political & Legal".

"Local" might also be enlarged to "Local, Misc, & Obits", to take pressure off of "Non-WoT", which might become "Mil Non-Wot".
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-10-23 14:25  

#20  Finally, you don't REALLY think the enemy's gonna stop pressing just because President Zero gets in? They took hostages during Carter, bombed during Reagan, they invaded countries during Bush 1, Bombed the WTC unsuccessfully and blew up embassies during Clinton...
Posted by: Tranquilized Mechanical Yeti   2008-10-23 14:21  

#19  It's a little randian, but "Page 6: Looterz."
Posted by: Tranquilized Mechanical Yeti   2008-10-23 14:17  

#18  I might do away with categories altogether for Page 6. "Lurid Crime Tales" on the Seedy Politicians' page seems really redundant.
Posted by: Fred   2008-10-23 14:11  

#17  I like the Page 6 for just Politics (seems to be a lot of that discussed here). 'Seedy Politician' might redundant and repetitious.

I wonder if it might be worth it to have a seperate set of categories for each page.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2008-10-23 14:05  

#16  Sounds like a good idea. Are you sure your server can handle the storage space?
Posted by: SSET   2008-10-23 14:05  

#15  There will still be plenty of news on Terror.

Fight for a free press.
Posted by: ex-lib   2008-10-23 14:04  

#14  I'm still not sure on which page Kyoto compliance will fall...
Posted by: Fred   2008-10-23 14:03  

#13  So I'd also suggest some sort of category for the brave new world of patent holders. Sorry, kept losing my train of thought.
Posted by: Tranquilized Mechanical Yeti   2008-10-23 13:48  

#12  They're going to basically use climate change and a bogus "energy independence" thing to force through an equivalent to 16th century Royal Patents on Energy.
Posted by: Tranquilized Mechanical Yeti   2008-10-23 13:47  

#11  I concur with TW, but I'm still praying for divine intervention and a Republican win, at any level.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-10-23 13:39  

#10  I vote for a separate page. That way those that wish to concentrate on overt WoT stuff need not scroll past hundred-post impassioned political argument threads.
Posted by: trailing wife   2008-10-23 13:32  

#9  I like it as a category: "Crooks and Seedy Politicos". If it's WoT related, it goes onto page 2, otherwise it goes to page 6. Presto -- it's a category AND a page!
Posted by: Steve White   2008-10-23 13:28  

#8  Seedville, where the weeds grow unmowed.
Posted by: mojo   2008-10-23 13:29  

#7  One minor glitch will be the way commerce will be distorted during the Opophis administration. Take for instance the way energy will be treated; you'll have companies that'll only be in business thanks to laws and taxes limiting traditional hydrocarbon energy industries.

(And no, that won't be good for energy independence. They always aim at the Arabs, or say they're aiming at the Arabs, and always land on the domestic industry. Kinda like Von Braun, reaching for the stars and always hitting London).
Posted by: Tranquilized Mechanical Yeti   2008-10-23 13:27  

#6  My opinion, page 6.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-10-23 13:27  

#5  Sure you need the "Seedy" part?
Posted by: tu3031   2008-10-23 13:22  

#4  I'm not a fan of page 6...it seems like pages 1 and 2 are enough, and page 3 was the expansion. Pages 4 and 5 seem irrelevant, and are just dumping grounds for "that interesting link I saw".

It seems as if Rantburg is becoming less and less about the War on Terrorism and more and more a link aggregator like digg.com or fark.com.
Posted by: gromky   2008-10-23 13:22  

#3  I like the "Seedy Politician" page idea, Fred, then you can have categories such as Idiot, Useful Idiot, and Murtha. If Russell wins the 12th District race, then you can delete Murtha and substitute the synonym -- Useless Idiot.
Posted by: GK   2008-10-23 13:10  

#2  "Crookburg"? Not a bad idea, though I'm afraid it'll come out looking like the Congressional phone book...
Posted by: Fred   2008-10-23 13:09  

#1  Have you considerd a ThugBurg like addition ti complement the page?
Posted by: .5MT   2008-10-23 13:02  

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