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Oil slips on bad US economic news
2008-10-31
Oil prices have slipped in an unpredictable trade market and over declining economic growth in the US, the world's top energy consumer.

New York's main contract, light sweet crude for December delivery fell 1.54 dollars to close at 65.96 dollars per barrel. In London, Brent North Sea crude for December lost 1.76 dollars to settle at 63.71 dollars.

The US economy contracted at a 0.3 percent annualized pace in the third quarter as a global credit crunch saw consumers and businesses cut back on spending.

The decline, not as steep as the 0.5 percent annualized drop expected by private economists, comes amid mounting expectations of a sharp falloff in the US economy amid the worst banking and financial crisis in decades. Oil prices have dipped as the market has focused on the negative fallout from a global financial crisis on energy demand.
Posted by:Fred

#18  Sorry G,PotG, the Iron Duke was an inline 4. no aluminum, but cheap-ass plastic timing gears that when they failed made you yank the damn motor from a GM FWD car to change.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-10-31 17:26  

#17  If memory serves (and I try to block that period... and I am VERY happy that car was hauled away before I ever drove it) it had the Iron Duke, which may have been a V-4 (as opposed to an inline 4).
Posted by: Grenter, Protector of the Geats   2008-10-31 17:23  

#16  a 1974 Vega

Aluminum block? What a hideous vehicle. Had to get rid of 69 4-4-2 for a damn Vega. That's why I hate Carter.
Posted by: Beavis   2008-10-31 13:56  

#15  And the fuel siphoning from one car to the other.

(A moment of silence for Dad's 1957 Corvette which was replaced with a 1974 Vega.)
Posted by: Grenter,protector of the Geats   2008-10-31 13:49  

#14  "Remember 12% unemployment and 18% interest rates when Carter was President?"

And the gas lines and the odd-even days for filling up....

I remember that slime-ball and his attempt to destroy our economy and our nation. There's a nice warm spot waiting in his future.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-10-31 13:31  

#13  The price of oil going down from $145 to $65/barrel keeps $350 billion/year (or 2.5% of GDP) from leaving the US as was the case earlier this year. I believe that money and the domestic productivity it will buy will cushion or reverse the recession.

The administration needs to jawbone the price of oil even lower and make moves, even symbolic, to eliminate oil dependency from hostile regimes.
Posted by: ed   2008-10-31 13:28  

#12  FDan, they not only can stop but they can pack up and leave!! I think they should all move to Zimbobby and demonstrate their true powers of reconstruction.
Posted by: AlanC   2008-10-31 13:08  

#11  If he hadn't ruined the economy for construction I wouldn't have been fired which forced me into a new career. I borrowed from a friend and went to CDI to learn programming!


Yeah, Jimmy got me out of the car business and into the IT world. Thanks Jimmy. But the Democrats can stop now.
Posted by: Formerly Dan   2008-10-31 11:50  

#10  I think saying people are losing their homes left and right is a bit of hyperbole, no? Isn't the real foreclosure rate still only a couple percent? According to this 1 in 1685 households was in some state of foreclosure during September. That's a 9.2% decline from the previous month. Once we get pass this credit crunch and the subprime mortgage stuff shakes out, I think we'll be in pretty decent shape. Until Obama increases government spending by a trillion dollars and adds a ton of new taxes. Then we're screwed.
Posted by: AllahHateMe   2008-10-31 11:01  

#9  sorry about the caps
Posted by: chris   2008-10-31 10:17  

#8  i think the liberal media is making it sound worse than what it is. YEAH PPL ARE LOSING THEIR HOMES LEFT AND RIGHT BUT I SUSPECT MOST OF THEM BOUGHT HOMES THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IN THE FIRST PLACE. aSLSO I KNOW THIS IS GOING TOO BANKRUPT THE OIL RICH NATIONS BUT IT SURE AS HELL FEELS GOOD SQUEEZING THOSE BILLFOLDS
Posted by: chris   2008-10-31 10:16  

#7  Yes, yes, yes.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-10-31 09:47  

#6  Hey let's not bad mouth Jimmuh!!!! His presidency was the best for me personally and I refute any thing bad about him!!!

If he hadn't ruined the economy for construction I wouldn't have been fired which forced me into a new career. I borrowed from a friend and went to CDI to learn programming!

He forced up interest rates so high that house prices tanked. When Reagan was elected I quick bought a house cheap and refinanced twice in 3 years dropping my interest rate from 17 to 8 percent. Then sold the house for 3 times what I paid for it.

Jimmy did me good, hear? 8^)
Posted by: AlanC   2008-10-31 09:25  

#5  The futures price of refined gasoline is now LESS than the price of crude oil!
Posted by: Minister of funny walks   2008-10-31 03:32  

#4  Oil and other commodity prices are signalling things are going to get much worse. Commodity prices reflect future (planned) economic activity. The situation in Europe looks particularly dire. Volvo truck orders fell 98% Q on Q which is an astonishing number.
Posted by: phil_b   2008-10-31 02:49  

#3  Actually, the economic news isn't bad. Think about what the news was today. If we had twelve consecutive months like this month, the economy wouldn't contract even by 1%. Not even by 1/2 of 1%. Not even 1/3 of 1%. If we had twelve consecutive months like this one, the economy would contract by a little over a quarter of a percent.

Basically it was flat. When it is flat, it can be a little on the plus side, or a little on the down side. It was a little on the down side but damned little.

Also, unemployment held steady. What that means is that you hear about companies laying off in the news but what you didn't hear about was an equal number of people being hired by other companies.

With the price of oil going down, transportation and shipping will do much better. In fact, lower energy costs help the entire economy. Things really aren't that bad. They aren't growing, but we aren't in any kind of a depression either.

Remember 12% unemployment and 18% interest rates when Carter was President? No, apparently not.
Posted by: crosspatch   2008-10-31 02:16  

#2  they say it like it is a bad thing.
Posted by: Betty   2008-10-31 01:27  

#1  Suck it up, Hugo and Dinnerjacket. Better put your dreams of revolutionary conquest on hold till oil prices rise again. Meantime, watch your six and keep the subsidies flowing. The peasants get pi$$ed when they don't get their cheap gas. Don't get them angry. You won't like them when they are angry.
Posted by: Alaska Paul in Juneau, AK   2008-10-31 01:26  

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