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Iraq
Navy to consider closing case of missing pilot, Michael Speicher
2009-01-05
Captain Spiecher remains in our prayers and in our hearts.
WASHINGTON (AP) - The family of a Navy pilot missing since his plane was shot down during the first Gulf war isn't ready to give up hope that he is alive and say they will oppose any decision to declare him killed in action. The Navy has scheduled a review board hearing for Monday on the status of Capt. Michael "Scott" Speicher, who has been missing since January 1991, when his FA-18 Hornet was shot down in Iraq on the first night of the Persian Gulf War.

The hearing comes several months after the Navy received a fresh intelligence report on Speicher from Iraq.

Speicher's family, which has seen the latest information, believes Navy Secretary Donald Winter is moving toward changing Speicher's status from missing/captured to killed, according to family spokeswoman and attorney Cindy Laquidara. The family - including two college-age children who were toddlers when Speicher went missing - believes the Pentagon should do more to determine definitively what happened, Laquidara said. They see the outcome as setting a standard for future missing-in-action investigations, she said.

"This really is a precedent for every other captive serviceman or woman and it needs to be done right," Laquidara said. "We've looked at the information that's going to be presented to the board and we feel pretty confident that it's not time under the standards that they've set to change the status. There are things that need to be done before one can be certain."

Speicher, who had lived in the area of Jacksonville, Fla., was the first American lost in the war. Some believe Speicher ejected from the plane and was captured by Iraqi forces, and potential clues later emerged that he might have survived: The initials "MSS" were found scrawled on a prison wall in Baghdad, for example, and there were reports of sightings.

The Pentagon has changed Speicher's status several times. He was publicly declared killed in action hours after his plane went down. Ten years later, the Navy changed his status to missing in action, citing an absence of evidence that he had died. In October 2002, the Navy switched his status to "missing/captured," although it has never said what evidence it had that he was ever in captivity.

Another review was done in 2005 with information gleaned after Baghdad fell in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, which allowed U.S. officials to search inside Iraq. The review board recommended then that the Pentagon work with the State Department, the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and the Iraqi government to "increase the level of attention and effort inside Iraq" to resolve the question of Speicher's fate.

The Defense Intelligence Agency, which tracks missing-soldier cases and works with other intelligence agencies, submitted its latest report last fall. "Capt. Speicher's status remains a top priority for the Navy and the U.S. government," Cmdr. Cappy Surette, a Navy spokesman, said recently. "The recent intelligence community assessment reflects exhaustive analysis of information related to Capt. Speicher's case."

The final decision on changing Speicher's status must come from the secretary of the Navy; the review board's decision is only a recommendation, said Lt. Sean Robertson, another Navy spokesman. Robertson said that once the board meets, it has up to 30 days to complete its report. The family would then have up to 30 days to comment on the board's recommendation before it is forwarded to the secretary for decision. The board will be composed of three officers, including one who is experienced in F/A-18 aircraft. The board has a legal adviser assigned and Speicher will also be represented by legal counsel to look after the interests of him and his family, Robertson said.

Laquidara said family members would attend the hearing. "It's really easy to put out a yellow ribbon but not so easy to allocate resources to find a missing serviceman or woman," she said. "If Scott's not alive now, he was for a very long time, and that could happen to somebody else."
Posted by:Steve White

#11  #10
The books aren't exactly closed. Years ago, I spotted what looked like a filler in a newspaper. Wanted the relatives of the following ten guys KIA in WW II to contact DOD. It had been thought their B17 had crashed into the Coral Sea. Instead, it had hit a mountain on New Guinea or New Britain or someplace. They got the guys out. The families agreed that they should be buried as they fought--together--rather than separating them to various family plots. So they were all buried at Arlington. I got some more details about Casualty Branch. Even if the guys are declared dead, everybody comes home. Sooner or later. One way or another. Even if it's, as it was in this case, nearly half a century.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey   2009-01-05 21:43  

#10  You'd be surprised how thoroughly the US looks for downed or dead pilots. Usually they don't give up unless there's absolutely no hope. I spent dozens of nights in Vietnam looking for lost pilots. We spent several months looking for crewmembers from an SR-71 that vanished elsewhere. We ran almost 30 reconnaissance missions over North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, and South Carolina, looking for an RF-4C that smashed into a mountain in North Carolina. There was still an open case on an RB-45 that disappeared on the Czech border in 1955 when I got to Germany in 1971. I can't remember how many thousands of frames of film I've looked at, trying to find POW/MIA/LOST traces in a dozen different countries. The chances Scott Speicher is still alive or zero. The same is true for the Israeli pilot lost in the first Lebanese War. There comes a time when you simply have to say "there's nothing more we can do", and close the books on these guys, no matter how much you hate it. Rest in peace, Scott.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2009-01-05 20:02  

#9  IIRC, bits and pieces of his Hornet were found, but no evidence of his ejection seat or chute were by the wreckage. I agree, please let him Rest in Peace and may his family finally begin to work on healing that wound. False hopes only destroy.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2009-01-05 14:36  

#8  There's a presumption of death at common law if you're gone for seven years without being heard from. A lot of states have shortened that to five years.

Eighteen years . . . I'm sorry, but the odds are seriously against finding him alive.
Posted by: Mike   2009-01-05 14:33  

#7  i agree bigjim but remember there are still a few who hope for POWs from Vietb=nam too return still
Posted by: rabid whitetail   2009-01-05 12:23  

#6  I think if the guy was alive, we would have seen or heard something by now. It's been 18 years, let the guy rest in peace for christ's sake.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2009-01-05 09:31  

#5  I think they really really looked for the guy. He's just not there. I can't remember whether they found his plane. Short of combing the dessert with MAD I don't know how they would. It must be frustrating for the family to have had som many whiffs of seeming information. It is doubtful that credible records still exist after the loot-fest that followed the invasion. I don't think Sadaam's hired the most gifted records keepers either. Finding some Iraqi that will string the family along is another thing alltogether.
Posted by: Super Hose   2009-01-05 07:41  

#4  The Defense Intelligence Agency, which tracks missing-soldier cases and works with other intelligence agencies, submitted its latest report last fall. "Capt. Speicher's status remains a top priority for the Navy and the U.S. government,"

If the public only knew. I wish Ralph Peters would write a book about out government's "missing soldier" and MIA/POW efforts.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-01-05 07:30  

#3  I seem to remember reports of human error due to work overload of the AWACS crew. There were hundreds of plane in the air that night. Both the F-18s and AWACS detected the Foxbat but the F-18s did not receive clearance to fire.
Posted by: ed   2009-01-05 06:46  

#2  In Kosovo, Mig29s who are far better than Mig 25s were routinely downed by FA/18s without dropping a sweat.

Could it be a case of friendly fire?
Posted by: JFM   2009-01-05 05:45  

#1  ...Part of the problem here is that CAPT Speicher was shot down by an Iraqi MiG-25 that the USAF and USN AWACS ships on duty that night never saw. Admitting that a Foxbat got past all that radar would be a devastating admission that something as big, dumb, and ugly as a Foxbat actually has a chance in combat against US air.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2009-01-05 05:14  

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