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Obama signs order to close Guantanamo in a year
2009-01-22
President Barack Obama began overhauling U.S. treatment of terror suspects Thursday, signing orders to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center, shut down secret overseas CIA prisons, review military war crimes trials and ban the harshest interrogation methods.

With his action, Obama started changing how the United States prosecutes and questions al-Qaida, Taliban or other foreign fighters who pose a threat to Americans -- and overhauling America's image abroad, battered by accusations of the use of torture and the indefinite detention of suspects at the Guantanamo prison in Cuba.
And battered repeatedly by the Dhimmicrats and the MSM ...
"The message that we are sending the world is that the United States intends to prosecute the ongoing struggle against violence and terrorism and we are going to do so vigilantly and we are going to do so effectively and we are going to do so in a manner that is consistent with our values and our ideals," the president said.
No, it means that we'll be as squeamish as progressive Europeans in the future. In the past we didn't have a problem dealing with terrorists and thugs when our security was threatened. We were Jacksonian: we'd respect an enemy that followed the rules of war but would show no quarter to an enemy that didn't. Bambi doesn't understand that and that's why he's following the advise of 'progressives', who are equally squeamish. The Bambi administration can't or won't make the distinction between lawful versus unlawful enemy combatants. That's the first principle and all their actions will flow from that distinction.
The centerpiece order would close the much-maligned Guantanamo facility within a year, a complicated process with many unanswered questions that was nonetheless a key campaign promise of Obama's. The administration already has suspended trials for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo for 120 days pending a review of the military tribunals.
With the questions about who we'll release, who we'll keep and where we'll keep them, who we'll try and who we'll make disappear, it should be an interesting year. The Dhimmicrats and MSM like to pretend that George Bush never considered these issues, that Gitmo just sprang forth from Cheney's brain. They're going to recognize what a few adult Democrats (e.g., Jane Harmon) knew all along: it's a damned difficult issue.
In the other actions, Obama:

_Created a task force to recommend policies on handling terror suspects who are detained in the future. Specifically, the group would look at where those detainees should be housed since Guantanamo is closing.
Good luck with that. Some we've released to the field have come back to fight and kill Americans. Some we'd otherwise like to release are wanted men in their own countries, countries that don't follow the same gentle European rules for handling terrorists. And some are people no one wants.
_Required all U.S. personnel to follow the U.S. Army Field Manual while interrogating detainees. The manual explicitly prohibits threats, coercion, physical abuse and waterboarding, a technique that creates the sensation of drowning and has been termed a form of torture by critics. However, a Capitol Hill aide says that the administration also is planning a study of more aggressive interrogation methods that could be added to the Army manual -- which would create a significant loophole to Obama's action Thursday.
Bet that the military will fight that. They want the Field Manual left alone, I gather, precisely because they're not the CIA.
"We believe that the Army Field Manual reflects the best judgment of our military, that we can abide by a rule that says we don't torture, but that we can still effectively obtain the intelligence that we need," Obama said. He said his action reflects an understanding that "we are willing to observe core standards of conduct, not just when it's easy, but also when it's hard."

A task force will study whether other interrogation guidelines -- beyond what's spelled out in the Army manual -- are necessary for intelligence professionals in dealing with terror suspects.

But an Obama administration official said that provision should not be considered a loophole that will allow controversial "enhanced interrogation techniques" to be re-introduced. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the administration's thinking.
So Bambi's administration is already infested with leakers and apple-polishers ...
The order also orders the CIA to close all its existing detention facilities abroad for terror suspects -- and prohibits those prisons from being used in the future. The agency has used those secret "black site" prisons around the world to question terror suspects.
So we'll hand over Bagram to the Afghan government, the camps in Iraq to the Iraqi government, etc. How is that an improvement unless the goal is to leave one's own hands squeaky clean?
_Directed the Justice Department to review the case of Qatar native Ali al-Marri, who is the only enemy combatant currently being held on U.S. soil. The directive will ask the high court for a stay in al-Marri's appeals case while the review is ongoing. The government says al-Marri is an al-Qaida sleeper agent.
No, the Bush administration said he was a sleeper agent. What does the Obama administration think he is? The answer will be enlightening.
An estimated 245 men are being held at the U.S. naval base in Cuba, most of whom have been detained for years without being charged with a crime.
Because they're not criminals, they're terrorists. We're not obligated to extend to terrorists the rights that criminals have within the United States.
Among the sticky issues the Obama administration has to resolve are where to put those detainees -- whether back in their home countries or at other federal detention centers -- and how to prosecute some of them for war crimes.

"We intend to win this fight. We're going to win it on our terms," Obama said as he signed three executive orders and a presidential directive.

The administration official said Obama's government will not transfer detainees to countries that will mistreat them, including their own home country.
So you're back to the question, "and now what do you do with them?" And voting 'present' is not an option.
In his first Oval Office signing ceremony, Obama was surrounded by retired senior military leaders. He described them as outstanding Americans who have defended the country -- and its ideals.
I think we're going to see a lot more cheap stunts like this. I recall a time when retired military didn't let themselves be used by the politicians ...
Posted by:ed

#9  Gerald Warner:

This will end in tears. The Obama hysteria is not merely embarrassing to witness, it is itself contributory to the scale of the disaster that is coming. What we are experiencing, in the deepening days of a global depression, is the desperate suspension of disbelief by people of intelligence - la trahison des clercs - in a pathetic effort to hypnotise themselves into the delusion that it will be all right on the night. It will not be all right.
Posted by: William Marcy Tweed   2009-01-22 22:44  

#8  Uncles Fidel + RAUL reportedly desire to see GITMO THE BASE closed and its land returned to Cuba, not just the DC???

BLAGO is going all out to set up for a OWG Free/Spec Econ Zone in the Midwest invol Ilinios, Detroit, + Canucks ["GREAT LAKES ZONE"], weirdly and mysteriously alongst the most likely routes for the SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH TEXAS SUPER-HIGHWAY + NORTH AMER UNION.

GITMO > CUBA'S FREE/SPEC ECON ZONE???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-01-22 20:23  

#7  He's good on symbolic acts. Unfortunately, the other side [regardless of how nice-nice you think you can play and gain reciprocity], is even more into dramatic non-talk symbolism that the sycophants in the MSM can't hide.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-01-22 20:21  

#6  So Obama signs a symbolic order to close GITMO. But when asked about an actual plan on how to do it he saysÂ…DonÂ’t worryÂ…IÂ’m going to create a “Task Force” to figure that out. He then signs yet another symbolic order stating that all terrorist interrogations will be conducted strictly by Army Field Manual standards. But the Intelligence community tells him itÂ’s a horrible idea and he risks a revolt in his first week in office. Hey stay cool spooky dudesÂ…heÂ’s going to create a “Study” of more aggressive interrogation methods that could be added later.
Godspeed Uncle LeonÂ…Godspeed!
Posted by: DepotGuy   2009-01-22 19:19  

#5  I just heard a radio news item that says he also signed an Executive Order outlawing torture and "other harsh methods of interrogation"...
oh, good. I hope everyone remembers this when people die in an attack that could have been prevented.
Posted by: Blinky Crusoger9464   2009-01-22 19:16  

#4  And voting 'present' is not an option.

Yes, we can. And he did.

This is just kicking the can down the road for a year. All he has done is appease his more virulent supporters with lip service and kick the can down the road a year. In a year there will be other, more pressing crises. Barry will find out who's really in there and why. No one, or none of his supporters, will remember Gitmo, because it will be an inconvenient truth, flushed down the memory hole. And he'll need all the cells in Gitmo to hold the prisoners we take in our retreat from Afghanistan so that we have somebody to trade, at least in his mind, for the POWs.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2009-01-22 18:53  

#3  "overhauling America's image abroad, battered by accusations of the use of torture and the indefinite detention of suspects at the Guantanamo prison in Cuba"

America's image abroad never suffered because of accusations of torture, because those "abroad" nations don't give a rat's ass about torture. Most of them use torture routinely. The Euro's too - their secret services use torture but you'll never read about it anywhere. Our image didn't suffer, the Euro's, Muzzies, assorted thug regimes, and the NYT chose to portray that as being the case as a method of propagandizing against the Bush administration, and many of their propagandized masses followed suit.
Posted by: Cynicism Inc   2009-01-22 17:56  

#2  However, a Capitol Hill aide says that the administration also is planning a study of more aggressive interrogation methods that could be added to the Army manual...

Maybe we'll make them watch that "I Pledge" video...
Posted by: tu3031   2009-01-22 17:04  

#1  THEN:
Headlines On This Date 4 Years Ago:

"Republicans spending $42 million on inauguration while troops Die in unarmored Humvees"

"Bush extravagance exceeds any reason during tough economic times"

"Fat cats get their $42 million inauguration party, Ordinary Americans get the shaft"

Annnnnnnnnd.......


Headlines Today:
"Historic Obama Inauguration will cost only ..... $15 0 million"

"Obama Spends $15 0 million on inauguration; America Needs A Big Party"

" To Everyman Obama shows America how to celebrate"

"Citibank executives contribute $8 million to Obama Inauguration" (after their bail out)
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-01-22 16:35  

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