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Afghanistan
Rights group: sez US procedures fail Afghan civilians
2009-05-15
Human Rights Watch accused the U.S. military of not doing enough to reduce civilian casualties during battles in Afghanistan and called Friday for "fundamental changes" to prevent civilian deaths like those during an airstrike this month.
Illustrate with the 'Waging Law' or 'Jeez' pic? So hard to decide ...
New York-based Human Rights Watch said its independent investigation into a May 4-5 clash that killed scores of people, including many women and children, found that measures put in place by the U.S. military to safeguard civilians were "inadequate."
Not that anyone from HRW has ever served in our military, since that would be icky, and not that any of them have ever been involved in counter-insurgency efforts, which would be double-plus icky.
Afghans blame U.S. airstrikes for the deaths and destruction in two villages in western Farah province. American officials say the Taliban held villagers hostage during the fight.
We're right but with the help of HRW the terrorists will win the PR battle.
It is unclear exactly how many people died in the fighting in Bala Baluk district. The Afghan government has paid out compensation to families for 140 dead, based on a list gathered from villagers. The U.S. military has said that figure is exaggerated, but has not given its own estimate. If the Afghan toll is correct, it would be the largest case of civilian deaths since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion to oust the Taliban.

Villagers told researchers for the watchdog group the firefight between Taliban and Afghan and U.S. forces had ended before the evening bombing began. The U.S. has said militants were still firing in the villages when it dropped bombs on the site in the evening.

"Even if some Taliban remained in the village, dropping a dozen bombs into a residential area doesn't seem to make much sense," Brad Adams, the group's Asia director, said in a statement.
Says the brave, brave Brad who likely never toted a rifle ...
"The U.S. needs to answer some basic questions about the sources and quality of information it requires before authorizing these kinds of devastating bombing runs," Adams said.
Says the brave, brave Brad who likely never has ever evaluated battlefield intel ...
U.S. military guidelines issued following a previous battle that resulted in large-scale civilian deaths charges commanders taking fire from an Afghan house to "satisfy themselves that every effort has been made to confirm that the Afghan facility does not shelter innocent civilians."

Human Rights Watch noted that international troops have also been told to consider pulling out of firefights in areas with large numbers of civilians.
Posted by:anonymous5089

#5  I thought the US was in Afghanistan as it was the BASE of the 911 bombers. Now I don't recall anything about being in Afghanistan because we needed to cuddle a population deserving of being cuddled?

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong HRW!
Posted by: 3dc   2009-05-15 15:47  

#4  How about the US giving a "reliabity rating" to these various sources. Sean Penn, HAMAS,Jimmy Carter,et al, would get a 0. Anything UN and similar would get around a 5, at best. Our government could get as high as a 7 or 8, if not too much politics is in play. Anything extracted from our enemies by waterboarding, or anything we see with our own eyes, of course, rates a 10. The MSM will compulsively parrot our rating numbers even as they try to trash us. Can't help themselves. The public will end up only remembering the reliability numbers that we gave. The way it is now, any group can say anything about anything and get equal weight for their pontifications with the best news available. If we give credible rankings to these things it will help the audience sort out what to believe and what not.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon   2009-05-15 15:15  

#3  international troops have also been told to consider pulling out of firefights in areas with large numbers of civilians.

That would certainly guarantee the increased use of civilians as human shields.
Posted by: SteveS   2009-05-15 14:34  

#2  Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Sorry Pal.
Posted by: GirlThursday   2009-05-15 14:05  

#1  "The U.S. needs to answer some basic questions about the sources and quality of information it requires before authorizing these kinds of devastating bombing runs," Adams said.

Well, Brad, if a buncha Taliban assholes are trying to blow my ass off, I'd say that answers my basic question of whether or not I need to call in an airstrike.
Maybe you can run this by the Taliban and see if they're willing to change their "procedures"?
Posted by: tu3031   2009-05-15 13:37  

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