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Meet The Science Czar
2009-07-11
A post of Zombietime's
John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.

The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both?

These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

  • Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
  • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
  • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
  • People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
  • A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

Impossible, you say? That must be an exaggeration or a hoax. No one in their right mind would say such things...
As they say, read the whole thing.
Posted by:Thing From Snowy Mountain

#14  "Under what constitutional power are these "czars" created and given governing authority?"

-none. They don't answer to congress. I heard there are 33 total Czars now - they are being paid tax payer cash and so far only answer to the pres. That would've prolly been enough for our founders to throw the b.s. flag at the fed gov't.
Posted by: Broadhead6   2009-07-11 17:16  

#13  I strongly suspect that if the gentleman in question had a textbook that talked about the need to control the population of those untermenschen jews that Cranium-half-empty would not be mocking those of us who are upset by the situation. I also don't think TW would be making statements like "Well, everyone's opinion changes over time, maybe he's not a Nazi any more."

The Nazis came into power because noone _took_ them seriously at the time until it was too late. The idea that they actually meant to do what was set out in _Mein Kamf_ was just too laughable to most Germans, who wanted to be stronger and not worry about the details too much.

It ended with their country being partitioned for forty years, and could have ended worse if the allies had gone through with the morgrenthau plan and/or the soviets had more than a quarter of the country.

I don't see where any of the non-US world powers out there today are the sort of people to rebuild a conquered adversary instead of looting it.

Finally, I wouldn't bet on their views having changed any if the resulting actions they're trying to justify are pretty much the same. In 1970 population expansion and resource depletion, to these people, meant the US had to be de-developed.

Now, in 2009, their reason is global warming, but the recommended course of action would produce the same result.

I imagine in ten years they'll still be pursuing the same rememdy, if they haven't accomplished it already (and they're halfway there), even if the crisis du jour is embarrassing fungal infections.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2009-07-11 16:44  

#12  Who the hell let Half out? Next we'll be seeing Dave D posting!
Posted by: Frank G   2009-07-11 16:16  

#11  Technology was very different in 1977. Then too, people's opinions often change in thirty years.

F'r instance: it'd be awfully hard to force feed birth control chemicals to a population that puts PUR filters on their faucets, Brita filters on their water pitchers, and purchases bottled water for general drinking... and then heats everything in the microwave, breaking delicate chemical bonds.

Also, given how few doctors are now trained to perform abortions, where will they find large numbers of surgeons willing to give up lucrative private practices in order to abort and sterilize welfare mothers on the Medicare dime?

And seriously, an international police force? Given the effectiveness of the Blue Berets thus far, a UN police force doesn't seem much of a threat, no matter how much they might want to be.
Posted by: trailing wife   2009-07-11 16:04  

#10  There ya go. Deal with 'em harshly!

It is going to come down to a fight, you know that Half-Empty. Only thing that remains to be seen is if it happens before or after they start rounding people up.

Small caliber, sub-sonic, close range and preferably suppressed. When the break comes it is going to be personal, might as well look them in the eyes.
Posted by: Creregum the Obscure1352   2009-07-11 15:36  

#9  There ya go. Deal with 'em harshly!

Chief if you want to get it going talk about dealing with harshly.... or if you're really brave the virtues small caliber vs. large caliber.

Be prepared to defend both. At lenggth.
Posted by: .5MT   2009-07-11 15:21  

#8  I've believed for some time now, that it will be necessary to deal with these people harshly. It will not be possible to stop them from within the system as they now control it completely, or damn near it.

The more I hear about these Czars and their radical views, (take Alcee Hastings for example) the more convinced I am that it will be necessary to wage outright war against them directly and ruthlessly. It seems they are emboldened by Obamarama's win. We are running out of time. I do not expect that there will be any 2010 elections.

If there are, and they go badly for us, there won't be any 2012. Not without a fight anyway.
Posted by: Creregum the Obscure1352   2009-07-11 15:15  

#7  Under what constitutional power are these "czars" created and given governing authority?
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-07-11 12:17  

#6  It appears Barry has found his Mengele...
Posted by: tu3031   2009-07-11 11:47  

#5  Out of what budget do all these Czars get paid?
Posted by: eLarson   2009-07-11 11:37  

#4  Obama and the liberals are playing a dangerous game with appointments such as these.

What is happening now sounds an awful lot like what Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote about in his novel November, 1916

A very deadly, very dangerous game...
Posted by: badanov   2009-07-11 10:56  

#3  Remember, this is the guy who is ok'ing and formulating Obama policy on the environment, and just as importantly, medicine and medical technology.

And Obama is just fine having a radical collectivist that believes in forcing people to do things just because he thinks he is smarter than them.

The company one keeps tells a lot about a person. This guy speaks volumes about Obama in light of his siding with Chavez, and the Ayatollahs.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-07-11 10:07  

#2  Many are already aware of the unspoken dangers these appointments or "Zhars" hold, but here's some additional background. Besides circomventing the established political and governmental processes by establishing a backccannel system, many of these committed loyalists will remain in the system and must be dealt with for years to come.

If Barry is defeated in 2012, it is very likely that a high percentage of these people will quietly migrate into powerful Gov't Senior Executive Service positions. Positions which require skills and expertise which very conveniently call for the specific talents which their individual resumes contain.

Notice the age of most of these folks if you will. They'll be around for a while. The Clintons left "W" a nice cadre of them as well.

Posted by: Besoeker   2009-07-11 06:14  

#1  Are you F-ing kidding me?
Posted by: newc   2009-07-11 03:40  

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