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China-Japan-Koreas
StrategyPage: China gives up on N. Korea..
2009-08-14
Posted by:3dc

#10  South Korea should have made secret agreements with China to have China replace the madmen in charge of North Korea in exchange for an acceptance of North Korean independence for ten or twenty years, and withdrawal of US forces from the Penninsula. Then the Chinese could use the cheap labor, and economic connections with South Korea that would result to ensure that a unified Korea (whenever it happened) would not be hostile to China (and in fact might be an ally against Japan), would not have nuclear weapons, and most of all the Chinese would not have to deal with a flood of starving refugess. In fact South Korea would avoid the refugee problem as well as having to rebuild the North suddenly.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2009-08-14 15:55  

#9   Interesting article but it gives no sources.

crosspatch, I think the StrategyPage business strategy is that you get the sources, and the deep analyses, when you pay their fee. For free, you get "Trust me" summaries.
Posted by: trailing wife   2009-08-14 14:27  

#8  I have been an advocate of that kind of approach for a long time, Moose.

And it doesn't need to be so "unofficial" either. South Korea and China are continuing to open their economies to each other. South Korea currently maintains a trade surplus with China.

China could easily have a role in creating an economic asset on its border rather than a liability and have a strong friendly neighbor for generations.
Posted by: crosspatch   2009-08-14 13:34  

#7  The South Koreans should have long ago set up a major, but discreet, discussion group in China, with both Chinese political and military types. The idea would be to quietly brainstorm endless ideas about what to do about North Korea, but cloaked deeply with very dull trade talks.

The idea is to carefully establish unofficial liaisons among the Chinese trade and military delegations who know where the South Koreans are coming from, and dutifully report it through intelligence channels.

99% of such communications are noted and ignored, but sooner or later, the Chinese intelligence-political section will spot that other 1%, as a key potential agreement with the South that pays off handsomely for China as well.

The Chinese appreciate diplomatic subtleties like that, and though it takes a long time, it can result in a very satisfactory outcome.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2009-08-14 12:23  

#6  I did see this a while back.

"A Chinese investment company developing a copper mine in North Korea with a North Korean company sanctioned by the UN Security Council has reportedly called an abrupt halt to the project."
Posted by: crosspatch   2009-08-14 02:21  

#5  WAFF > PAKISTAN CLOSE TO DEVELOPING 7000-KM ICBM.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-08-14 01:27  

#4  WMF > KOREAN MEDIAS: CHINA: NORTH KOREA BROADLY ALLOWED TO BE ON THE SIDE OF THE USA AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T ENGAGE IN ANTI-CHIN ACTIVITIES/
INTERESTS [aka NOKOR has LIMITED INDEPENDENCE/
SOVEREIGNTY IN SELECT = MINOR GEOPOL AFFAIRS].

* SAME > RAND: PLA CAN EASILY ACHIEVE AIR SUPREMACY IN THE TAIWAN STRAIT [PLA only needs 240 SRBMS agz Taiwan]. US MILITARY BASES NEAR TAIWAN AT HIGH RISK [read, Okinawa-Guam-Phil-SOKOR].

FYI its clear to many WMF Netters that CHIN won't hesitate to unilater or preemptively use "SECOND ARTILLERY" NUCWEAPS AGZ ANY REGIONAL ENEMY(S).
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-08-14 01:25  

#3  If true.
ABOUT GODDAM TIME
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2009-08-14 01:13  

#2  Interesting article but it gives no sources.
Posted by: crosspatch   2009-08-14 01:03  

#1  ION CHINESE MIL FORUM > [YouTube News]CHINESE WORKERS FLOOD INTO RUSSIA; + CHINA FEARS 20.0MILYUHN JOBLESS MIGRANTS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-08-14 00:59  

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