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Caribbean-Latin America
Brazil, France Jet Talks 'Very Advanced'
2009-09-09
Sarkozy has been a busy boy ...
Sept. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said his government is in "very advanced" talks to buy 36 Rafale fighter jets from France's Dassault Aviation SA.

Lula, in an interview with Radio France Internationale, said he will discuss Dassault's warplanes with Defense Minister Nelson Jobim in the next few days. Dassault is competing against Boeing Co., which produces the F-18 Super Hornet, and Saab AB, which makes the Gripen plane, to win the order from Brazil.
The Rafale is considerably behind the F-18E in performance (I've read) but perhaps Brazil doesn't need the ultimate airplane. The Rafale can fly from the Sao Paolo which (I don't believe) the F-18 can do, so perhaps that's another issue driving this.
"The discussions are advancing well," Lula told the radio station during an interview in Brasilia today. "We are on the same path as the French. Our discussions are very advanced and I think we'll come to a good conclusion."

Brazil last October chose Dassault, Saab and Boeing as the three finalists to help the country build and modernize its military. Brazil's Senate last week approved a bank loan of 6.1 billion euros ($3.3 billion) that the government will use to build five submarines and 50 helicopters in partnership with France.
Giving the French an inside track ...
Brazil is seeking the transfer of the technology required to build portions of the aircraft, Lula said.

"There are other competitors but we're in very deep talks with the French," Lula said today. "The competitor willing to share technology will have a major advantage."
Brazil already makes some simpler combat and commercial aircraft. This would be a big deal and would advance them considerably.
Lula said he couldn't say whether a deal would be signed during French President Nicolas Sarkozy's visit to Brazil this week.
Posted by:Steve White

#3  I would have choosed the Rafale. It is is the most modern design. Assuming all equipemnt and price equal.
Posted by: Large Snerong7311   2009-09-09 11:46  

#2  The most interesting thing about the deal is that the French are apparently going to buy an as-yet unbuilt Brazilian transport plane that's in competition with the A-400M.

(I'd have split the order between the Gripen and the Hornet, myself, but apparently they're getting some sort of package deal, the details of which I can't even guess at).
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2009-09-09 01:28  

#1  ...Little bit of background here: the original F-18A was designed to - in theory - operate off the old Essex class carriers, of which there were two or three still operating when the F-18 design was laid down. The Sao Paulo is only about three feet shorter than an Essex, so she would have no real problems landing and recovering a Hornet. Where the difficulties would arise would be in storing and maintaining the beasts. Sao Paulo would have to be almost completely rebuilt, most notably with a new flight deck and catapults, and even then her aircraft servicing facilities and magazine might not be sufficient to be able to operate a usable number of Hornets.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2009-09-09 00:16  

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