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Apartment residents told to take down U.S. flags
2009-10-14
ALBANY, Ore. - At the Oaks Apartments in Albany, the management can fly their own flag advertising one and two bedroom apartments - but residents have been told they can't fly any flags at all.

Jim Clausen flies the American flag from the back of his motorcycle. He has a son in the military heading back to Iraq, and the flag - he said - is his way of showing support.

"This flag stands for all those people," said Clausen, an Oaks Apartment resident. "It stands for the people that can no longer stand - who died in wars. That's why I fly this flag."

But to Oaks Apartment management, Clausen said, the American flag symbolizes problems. He was told to remove the red, white and blue from both of his rides, or face eviction.

"It floored me," he said. "I can't believe she was saying what she was saying."

Even long-time residents like Sharron White, who has flown a flag on her car for eight years, has been told to take it down. White said management told her that "someone might get offended."

"I just said to her 'They'll just have to get over it,'" White said.
Atta girl, cousin!
Resident we talked to who had been approached to take down their flags all told us the same thing: that management told them the flags could be offensive because they live in a diverse community.

Attempts to find out for ourselves why management would ban flags were unsuccessful. KATU wanted to talk to management at Oaks Apartments, but no one has returned our calls. The woman we were told had made the decision said she was "not going to answer any questions."

The mother of one soldier fighting in Iraq put up a poster in her son's apartment window when she learned of the ban. Her son's roommate said he'll risk eviction to make sure it stays.

Another Oaks Apartment resident, Judith Sherer, doesn't have a car. Instead she carries an American flag around the complex to protest the ban, and wonders if the flag pin she wears is next to be "singled out."

"If I put it on and I walk outside, what's going to happen?" Sherer muses. "Am I going to be confronted by a manager about this?"

We're told the ban includes sports flags and even flag stickers on cars.
Amazing. I heard there was a cultural split in the Northwest Territories.
Posted by:Steve White

#15  I understand the ban has been rescinded.
Posted by: Glenmore   2009-10-14 22:44  

#14  "Come and take it."
Posted by: mojo   2009-10-14 17:38  

#13  What Bright Pebbles said.

If true this is despicable. Odds are the manager does not own the property and unless a relative of the owner will be looking for a new job soon. Even if the owner originally instigated this you have a really bad public relations problem at this point.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2009-10-14 15:41  

#12  Then I'd call the ACLU and get them to defend me, since this is a civil liberties issue.

Um, no.

“It is my understanding in Oregon that an owner of private property can apply those types of restrictions,” said Jann Carson, the associate director of the ACLU of Oregon.

Hit the link to read about a case in Indiana where the ACLU had a different opinion.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2009-10-14 14:47  

#11  First off, it's spectacularly hard to evict people even when they're late on their rent. This is pretty chickenshit grounds to kick somebody out. Wonder if their premises are septic or they're terminally late on rent or something like that and they're trying to kick up dust with a bogus flag-persecution claim?

Secondly, the article is talking about flags on cars. What goddamn business is it of a rental business what's flying on their renters' personal vehicles?

Thirdly, if chuckledicks would concentrate on flying American flags from their pickups instead of those goddamn CBFs, I'd be jake with the world.

Fourthly, if old Glory is pissing 'em off, find yourself a Gadsden.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2009-10-14 11:42  

#10  Leave at the first opportunity and let them get taken over by one of the offended groups.
Posted by: gorb   2009-10-14 10:52  

#9  Check out Google Maps Street View. The first thing you see is a freakin' flag!

If I lived there I would fly a flag every day, and ask management to sue me. Then I'd call the ACLU and get them to defend me, since this is a civil liberties issue.

Right? Are those crickets I hear?
Posted by: Parabellum   2009-10-14 08:56  

#8  It's one of those effortless projects, they make their own lists so that everyone else doesn't have to bother later.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-10-14 08:40  

#7  Sounds just like the UK nowadays ...

Put a flag up , get told it offends some particular group or council .
Posted by: Oscar   2009-10-14 07:01  

#6  I'd be offended if someone was offended by the flag of the country they were living in.

HINT: If you're offended by a Flag, you're in the wrong country. Leave on the next flight.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2009-10-14 06:08  

#5  Take them up on their eviction threat.

Than find a hungry & greedy lawyer...
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-10-14 02:55  

#4  there is a cultural split in the northwest, tons of clueless, coddled, entitled liberals whose favorite pastimes are finding things to be offended by, esp. in western oregon and washington.
Posted by: 746   2009-10-14 01:50  

#3  Take them up on their eviction threat. Maybe NOT flying flags will offend more people than flying them will.

Whenever I hear that I know that the management is not really worried about someone possibly being offended. I mean, so they are willing to lose renters who ARE paying rent for fear they MIGHT lose one at some point in the future because they saw a flag on someone's private property?

Evict me for displaying an American flag on my personal property? I would challenge them on it and I would be handing out flag stickers to every single resident of the place.
Posted by: crosspatch   2009-10-14 01:17  

#2  One wonders what the apartment owners think of all this bad publicity....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2009-10-14 00:58  

#1  The tyrannies of petty officialdom.
Posted by: gromky   2009-10-14 00:49  

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