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Economy
Tax refugees staging escape from New York
2009-10-28
New Yorkers are fleeing the state and city in alarming numbers -- and costing a fortune in lost tax dollars, a new study shows.

More than 1.5 million state residents left for other parts of the United States from 2000 to 2008, according to the report from the Empire Center for New York State Policy. It was the biggest out-of-state migration in the country. The vast majority of the migrants, 1.1 million, were former residents of New York City -- meaning one out of seven city taxpayers moved out.

"The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource -- people," the report said.

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found.

And it should be no surprise that the city -- and Manhattan in particular -- suffered the biggest loss in terms of taxable income.

The average Manhattan taxpayer who left the state earned $93,264 a year. The average newcomer to Manhattan earned only $72,726. That's a difference of $20,538, the highest for any county in the state. Staten Island was second, with a $20,066 difference.

It all adds up to staggering loss in taxable income. During 2006-2007, the "migration flow" out of New York to other states amounted to a loss of $4.3 billion.

The study used annual US Census reports, which showed which states had increased population, combined with Internal Revenue Service data, which show which states, cities and counties had lost people.

While New York City and the state were the losers, the Sunshine and Garden States were winners. more than 250,000 New Yorkers who lived in and around the city fled to Florida. Another 172,000 city taxpayers ended up in New Jersey.
So another explanation is that the snow-birds are leaving to Florida and the families with kids move to Joisey ...
Why all the moving vans?

The center, part of the conservative Manhattan Institute, blames the state's high cost of living and high taxes. The study also revealed surprising details about how city residents moved from borough to borough.

Manhattan lost 64,480 taxpayers, and more than half -- 34,383 -- went to The Bronx. Brooklyn lost 68,951 taxpayers -- including 43,688 who went to Staten Island.

The study also had some good news. The peak loss of New Yorkers was in 2005, when nearly 250,000 residents left the state. But last year, only 126,000 left, the lowest figure over the eight-year period.
Their property values are upside down and they can't afford to move anymore.
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#8  Now now, NYC, is this any way to dev a future OWG-NWO NORTHEAST US-CAN-GREENLAND CORRIDOR FREE TRADE ZONE - I think NOT???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-10-28 20:52  

#7  "They flee to Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maryland...

Where they start the whole process of stupidization all over again.
Posted by mojo"

No need to start in Maryland - it's already there. Dunno about Conn & NH.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2009-10-28 18:12  

#6  Their property values are upside down and they can't afford to move anymore.
We see that out here in Greensburg. Property value there has quadrupled because greensburg is now "Greensburg!". Sounds great? Taxes are rediculous, so much so that people cannot afford to live there even with what would be considered a top third income level job, but cannot sell because nobody can afford to move there.

It is the green liberal social engineering project handed to them on a golden platter, and is steroid injected test tube baby gone spider man villian bad. Seriously, people should do a study on it. Why does some shitkicker flyover town matter to the real US city dwellers? Well its that attitude which is one aspect of the problem, but to continue it is because what has been done with Greensburg is what the plan is for the whole of the United States via EPA. It is happening right now with the house tax credits, artificially inflating land value until the end of the year to justify property value taxes. It is happening right now with the stifling of traditional energy sources in favor of wind and solar, basically arguing that the two in the bush is better than the one in your hand. If they do you a favor and answer your question about how far away the bush is they tell you its 42.

People need to be asking before we give up the meal in our hand for the two in the bush is 42 what? Inches? Yards? Miles? How far will I have to go to get my two meals in the bush and will it still be there when I arrive? If you don't ask that question and get the answer, you will end up walking over the horizon for pie in the sky while they stay where you two met, chuckling to themselves while eating the meal you voluntarily gave up, muttering "Stupid country rubes."
Posted by: swksvolFF   2009-10-28 16:32  

#5  They flee to Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maryland...

Where they start the whole process of stupidization all over again.
Posted by: mojo   2009-10-28 14:27  

#4  So long as when these elitist coasties land, they put to use that whole understand foreign cultures mindset and become like the locals. I'd hate to spill the beans but we do have great sushi out here: Rocky Mountain Oysters, fresh and uncooked, ripe for your eclectic palattes.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2009-10-28 12:34  

#3  Who Is John Galt?
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-10-28 12:20  

#2  Me, too, BrerRabbit. Escape From New York was a bad movie. I hope the reality is better.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2009-10-28 12:00  

#1  the Sunshine and Garden States were winners

This is the writers opinion not necesssarily the opinion of Sunshine and Garden Staters.

But I'm happy they didn't choose TN.
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2009-10-28 10:34  

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