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| Fort Hood shooter's name prompts response from American Muslims |
| 2009-11-06 |
| Ibrahim Hooper knows the drill. When news first broke Thursday that a shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, killed and injured U.S. soldiers, the national communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations wrote a statement of condemnation. He only sent it out later, when reports emerged that the alleged shooter's name was Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. "As soon as we saw what appeared to be a Muslim name, we issued our statement," Hooper said. "Until that time, we were praying that no Muslim would be involved." That's the reality of crisis management for the Muslim-American community, said Hooper, who handles communications for the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy group. Even without confirmation that the alleged gunman was Muslim -- there was no immediate determination of any religious affiliation for Hasan -- the mere reporting of a possible Muslim name required an immediate comment, he said. "That's unfortunately the world we live in nowadays," Hooper said. "So often, Muslims are accused of not condemning these kind of acts." The CAIR statement said: "No political or religious ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence. The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer Army that protects our nation. American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens in offering both prayers for the victims and sincere condolences to the families of those killed or injured." In a separate statement, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, based in Los Angeles, California, condemned what it called the "heinous incident." "We are in contact with law enforcement and U.S. federal government officials to gain more facts from this tragic incident and work together in dealing with its aftermath," the group said. Its statement called on "all members of American Muslim communities to be in contact with local law enforcement for the safety and security of their communities and their institutions." The Islamic Information Center also issued a statement "in conjunction with all the major Muslim organizations nationwide" that condemned the attack. "While several news reports have cited one of the gunmen to be Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, IIC strongly emphasizes that this attack and its perpetrator are in no way representative of the Muslim people or the peace-loving religion of Islam," the statement said. "The individuals who perpetrated this attack blatantly acted against the teachings of Islam and humanity," it added. After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States, Muslim-Americans reported increased attacks and threats by revenge-minded non-Muslims. "We've seen this before," Hooper said of a possible backlash. "Whenever there's an incident of this type, there's always the possibility this will happen." Even non-Muslims could be targeted, he said, noting that Sikhs who wear turbans or Hispanic-Americans can be mistaken as being of Middle Eastern descent. On Thursday night, CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad told a news conference the alleged Fort Hood attacker's motive remained unknown. "We urge all Americans to remain calm in reaction to this tragic event and to demonstrate once again what is best about America -- our nation's ability to remain unified even in times of crisis," Awad said. "We urge national political and religious leaders and media professionals to set a tone of calm and unity. "Unfortunately, based on past experience, we also urge American Muslims, and those who may be perceived to be Muslim, to take appropriate precautions to protect themselves, their families and their religious institutions from possible backlash." |
| Posted by:Oztralian |
| #24 Official response, straight from the CIC will be: In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. |
| Posted by: tipper 2009-11-06 21:26 |
| #23 Besoeker, you are seriously crossing the line here. Millions of Americans are Muslims and that doesn't prevent them from being good citizens. Deal with the bad apples... but only with those. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2009-11-06 21:19 |
| #22 If they refuse to be deported, then D E P A R T them! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2009-11-06 19:31 |
| #21 dimit... D E P O R T !!!! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2009-11-06 19:30 |
| #20 Depart every last one of the muzzie SOB's and be done with it! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2009-11-06 19:30 |
| #19 "Command a battalion" my ass. He was a doctor, not a field officer. The rank was so he could order orderlies around. |
| Posted by: mojo 2009-11-06 15:30 |
| #18 Ok, I'll bite, two real issues here. First off I think we need to wipe all mosques that we know support wahabiism off this planet. In the US we need to shut them down as terrorist supporting organizations, just like we do KKK supporting white supremist churches. I think the Patriot act, RICO act and Sedition acts should help cover it as well. Please don't mistake my desire to wipe all organizations that hate America off the face of the earth with my discussions on this event. LOL The second is this trend of nutjob shooters. Be it Islam, KKK, wanting to cover for killing your wife, or just because you have a crappy life, these nuts will pick up on some cause that gives them the strength to do this. We have to define how these people get there and then identify the trigger points so the proper authorities can get involved. This is difficult, and I don't have the answer. Just rolling up every Muzzie this time, every black guy or red neck next time will not work. This trend goes beond Islam and we can do better than that. |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2009-11-06 12:37 |
| #17 My heartfelt condolences go out to the families of the victims. My condolences as well to the American people who have to put up with a President who obviously doesn't share my feelings (or if he does is hiding them well). |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2009-11-06 12:36 |
| #16 49 Pan: That sick F67K that fragged the tent in 101st was a black kid that converted to Islam. If we rounded up all the muzzie names we would have missed him. In that case, in addition to name, anyone who is or was a known muslim should be put under investigation. Offer an apology, but everyone would understand the necessity. Most would pass, but I'm sure that it would take care of 99% of the problem with 10% of the effort. And as far as I am concerned, those who complained about it should be sent home. |
| Posted by: gorb 2009-11-06 11:53 |
| #15 Fuck Hooper and his taqiyaa bullshit. The mosques *ought* to catch hell for this crap. They *should* be picketed. They let their reading rooms become cesspools of Saudi-printed Wahhabi death-cult propaganda and their lecture-halls to echo with the howl of hatred, and then they expect us to just take po-faced "condemnation" of "indiscriminate violence" - some fucker on NPR actually said that this morning, "indiscriminate violence" - and expect to scuttle off into the protection of armed police officers posted outside their fucking doors? Fuck them. I want to see them clear out their fucking temple first. I want to see books thrown in the trash. I want an actual demonstration of good fucking faith this time. |
| Posted by: Mitch H. 2009-11-06 11:00 |
| #14 Did anybody notice that the official reaction from the Muslim is who me? We are a peaceful people, why everybody picking on me?. But down the Arab/Muslim street is another story, nothing but celebration. The same thing happened on 911... |
| Posted by: Ana 2009-11-06 10:17 |
| #13 So he hears of the massacre and the first thing he does is pray there are no Muslims involved? So typical of these cowards. No thoughts of the victims or their families, their first thoughts are for themselves. I spit on them and their f*cking religion. |
| Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-06 09:45 |
| #12 You can't just go rounding up everyone with a muzzie name and investigate them. Good lord thats the same shit we did in WWII. It won't help. That sick F67K that fragged the tent in 101st was a black kid that converted to Islam. If we rounded up all the muzzie names we would have missed him. What DOD needs to do is pay closer attention to their troops in looking for this behavior. Easier said than done, I know, but there has to be a trend, a patter that will help ID tis behavior. When suicide rates climbed DOD built a team to study why and what to do about it. The Army studied PTSD after Viet-Nam, they are much better at dealing with it now than they were 35 years ago, not perfect, but things like now it is not only acceptable to seek help but in some units required. This type of event has happened more than once now. Banning guns is not an answer, we need to figure out how to identify these nuts before they snap, identify the trend and indicators. The exact reason is really not important as we might think, the indiators are. Columbine they were outcasts, the 101st event he was a convert, at Bragg it was extra duty that set him off, this one we do not know yet. We must find the signs before the event. Like this retired Col. If that ass knew this guy was slipping, why did he not do something! That COL needs a good ass whipping. Now he is in the "Ya I knew he was a bad seed" and I'm a TV star mode. Screw him, as an officer if he really did see this he let every soldier and their families down for not doing something about it, shame on him. |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2009-11-06 08:58 |
| #11 wrote a statement of condemnation Kill & condemn |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2009-11-06 08:43 |
| #10 A Major has the authority to command a Battalion. Docs, nurses, lawyers, and padres hold their rank because of their skill. They do not have the same command authority (re:lawful order) as line officers. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2009-11-06 08:36 |
| #9 I think we need to go through the ranks and make sure we have no problem with Moslems...especially Moslem Officers...again. I suggest we begin with a simple muslim 'name search' and START AT THE VERY TOP! If we cannot somehow escape this cult of affirmative action, diversity, inclusion, and denial western civilization is DOOMED! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2009-11-06 07:06 |
| #8 A Major has the authority to command a Battalion. Majors are not lightweights. The organizational capacity and the Leadership skills of a Major...are well.....major. This guy was no common thug...I want his entire career under a microscope. And I want everybody he has ever served with interviewed. And I want his promotions and advancement process files. I want to know everybody he knows and all his friends...civilian and military. There are two others in custody associated with him... I want them wrung dry. I dont want anyone directly involved in this talking to the Press. I want the Press denied access to the victims families. Close ranks and take care of our own. Keep it quiet...who else is Moslem in the ranks ? I want an analysis of them using this man as a profile...especially Officers. Dont give anything to the Civilians especially political civilians. I want to see some careers scrutinized and dry cleaned.Our people died because we were trusting and they died because we were sloppy about Moslems. Lets make sure this not only doesnt happen again, but that it CANT happen again. I think we need to go through the ranks and make sure we have no problem with Moslems...especially Moslem Officers...again. Get on it. (And I dont care what is PC or what Barack Hussein has to say on the subject. In combat if you have a threat to your life then that is what your gun is for...or a knife outside the chowhall in the dark. ) |
| Posted by: Angleton9 2009-11-06 06:24 |
| #7 On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said. --- On Thursday night, CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad told a news conference the alleged Fort Hood attacker's motive remained unknown. Probably because there were no Jews around. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2009-11-06 06:02 |
| #6 Doesn't Nidal look becoming in his traditional garb and grinning too. |
| Posted by: tipper 2009-11-06 05:23 |
| #5 Hooper is a vile man. The day CAIR starts turning in mooslums who are planning terrorist attacks, well it will be a cold day in hell. |
| Posted by: Icerigger 2009-11-06 04:25 |
| #4 "So often, Muslims are accused of not condemning these kind of acts." GOSH I WONDER WHY THAT IS!!! |
| Posted by: gromky 2009-11-06 04:09 |
| #3 Um . . . Mr. Hooper nobody was surprised it was a Muslim. Sorry to say, you guys are the go to religion for murder, bombings, rape, beatings, honor killings, car bombs, female mutiliation, the murder of homosexuals and other innocents, etc. Islam is a religion of thugs and you, Mr. Hooper, are its spokesman. |
| Posted by: Yppih sub 2009-11-06 01:41 |
| #2 "As soon as we saw what appeared to be a Muslim name, we issued our statement," Hooper said. "Until that time, we were praying that no Muslim would be involved." I guess it's the only thing you are left with when the odds are stacked against you big time. |
| Posted by: gorb 2009-11-06 01:22 |
| #1 Perhaps they should turn their fruitcakes in. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2009-11-06 00:15 |