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Europe
Europe's looming demise
2009-12-30
By Pamela Geller

"The Europe as you know it from visiting, from your parents or friends is on the verge of collapsing," Geert Wilders said in a speech in the United States last year. The leader of the Netherlands' populist Party for Freedom added: "We are now witnessing profound changes that will forever alter Europe's destiny and might send the Continent in what Ronald Reagan called 'a thousand years of darkness.' " And not just Europe, but America as well.

Been to Europe lately? Thought it was bad? You ain't seen nothing yet. The passage of the Lisbon Treaty, hailed by President Obama, nailed the coffin shut on national sovereignty in Europe. The people of Europe fought it, but were overwhelmed by their political elites and the lack of American leadership in this age of our rather Marxist, collectivist U.S. president. Come Jan. 1, 2010, a disastrous and suicidal pact called the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership (Europe/Mediterranean) goes into effect with little fanfare or examination. It boggles the mind that such a consequential and seismic cultural shift could be mandated and put into play without so much as a murmur from the mainstream media.

Why should Americans care about this? Americans have to care because this global gobbledygook is coming to our shores, thanks to our globalist president.

The European human rights group called Stop the Islamization of Europe (SIOE) has been working tirelessly to expose the mass Muslim immigration plan of the Euro-Med Partnership. A statement on the SIOE Web site criticizes the secrecy of the process: "It was shocking to hear about the plans and at the same time knowing that Danish politicians and a [cowardly] Danish press - who is otherwise proud to be critical - has told nothing to the Danish people about this project which begins in January. This also showed clearly at the conference. Only very few politicians showed up and no media. Those politicians who showed up had obviously never heard about the Euro-Mediterranean project.

The goal of the Euro-Mediterranean cooperation is to create a new Greater European Union encompassing both Europe and North Africa, with the Mediterranean Sea becoming a domestic Eurabian sea. The goal is to establish a "comprehensive political partnership," including a "free trade area and economic integration"; "considerably more money for the partners" (that is, more European money flowing into North Africa); and "cultural partnership" - that is, importation of Islamic culture into post-Christian Europe. According to the SIOE, in the Euro-Med plan "Europe is to be islamized. Democracy, Christianity, European culture and Europeans are to be driven out of Europe. Fifty million North Africans from Muslim countries are to be imported into the EU."

Skeptical? It's already happening. The British newspaper the Daily Express reported in October 2008 on "a controversial taxpayer-funded 'job centre' " that opened in Mali at that time as "just the first step towards promoting 'free movement of people in Africa and the EU.' Brussels economists claim Britain and other EU states will 'need' 56 million immigrant workers between them by 2050 to make up for the 'demographic decline' due to falling birthrates and rising death rates across Europe." To offset this decline, a "blue card" system is to be created that will allow card holders to travel freely within the European Union and have full rights to work - as well as the full right to collect welfare benefits.

A Muslim population from Africa moving freely into Europe threatens America. On Christmas Day, a Nigerian Muslim flew from Amsterdam to Detroit and tried to explode a bomb on the plane - after he was allowed to board the plane without a passport. The Euro-Mediterranean Partnership will make jihad attacks like this one all the easier.

And once in Europe, Muslims have already begun demanding special privileges and accommodations. IslamOnline reported on Dec. 21 that "Muslims activists from 26 European countries have come together to launch the first rights council to enlighten European Muslims about their rights, monitor rising Islamophobia and defend Muslim rights in European courts of law." Ali Abu Shwaima, a Muslim leader in Italy, explained: "We think European human rights groups are not doing enough to defend the rights of Muslims. Therefore we thought that we need this new council, especially that all laws and constitutions in Europe respect freedom of religion and oppose all forms of discrimination and racism."

"Islamophobia," "discrimination" and "racism" are all terms Muslims in Europe and America use to confuse people into thinking that the perpetrators of Islamic terrorism are the real victims. And it is working: Mr. Wilders is going on trial in the Netherlands, instead of all the Islamic hate sponsors he is fighting against. It has to be this way, to increase harmony among the Muslim and non-Muslim member states of the Euro-Med Partnership. This internationalism is already destroying what has made Europe free and great. And now Mr. Obama seems to want to do the same to America.
Posted by:ryuge

#31  It's okay. Maybe once we all are exposed to non-western European values for a sufficient period, we'll learn to fight back.
Posted by: Zebulon Ebbusoger5635   2009-12-30 23:44  

#30  In 2050 Europe (and the rest of the civilized world) will look very different. We will live (me only hopefully) a high tech information society, with little use for unskilled labor. Automatization in factories will be dominant, services done by intelligent machines (you won't see a cashier in the supermarkets by then).

High skilled services will remain... but we really won't have use for unskilled labor from North Africa.

And Islam is of little or no appeal to the average European not born as a Muslim. That won't change either. If there is a "respiritualization", it will be predominantly Christian.

Muslims living in Europe will also change, and 4th and 5th generations will differ little from, non-Muslim families. You won't see 5th generation Muslim families with 6 kids.

Extremists exist and will exist. We will have to watch over them closely. But Islam is not going mainstream in Europe and never will.

"Euroabia" is a myth created by Bat Yeor. Europe is certainly looking to expand its influence to North Africa and the Middle East, but it will not tolerate things the other way round.
Posted by: European Conservative   2009-12-30 23:04  

#29  I took Geller (Atlas Shrugged) off my list quite a while back. Too many hyperbolic, unfounded rants for my taste.
Posted by: KBK   2009-12-30 22:45  

#28  anonymous5089, about half of the Jewish population of Israel come from Arab countries, Iran and North Africa. Given birth rate differentials, that proportion will be considerably higher. The culture of Israel is becoming less European to follow the birthrate -- which the neighboring countries will no doubt discover the hard way. The guilt of the colonizer is a European attitude, not an Arab one.
Posted by: trailing wife   2009-12-30 20:04  

#27  Agree with #26. But living in Europe, I'll keep my powder dry.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia   2009-12-30 14:50  

#26  As for the article at hand, coming from a hyperventillating pamela geller, I'll apply a metric tonne of salt. She's loony.
Posted by: AllahHateMe   2009-12-30 10:01  

#25  Just understand it's not "you" and "us" against "them", it's "us" (yeah, even the israeli, sorry, G(r)om, but AFAIC, israelis are white europeans, in last analysis) and "them".

In your dreams.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-12-30 10:00  

#24  Steve, I'm all for Americanized Asians. But Asian institutions as they exist today in CHina, India and pretty much all of Asia are profoundly opposed to our basic concepts of individual dignity. Side by side with respect for elders, respect for learning etc is utter contempt for any notion of transparent and honest government, rule of law, individual rights, equality of opportunity etc. Remember, the Asian Americans are the ones who escaped from those sh*tholes. They don't want their girls to wear saris or their boys to have to become gov't whores to make a living.
Posted by: lex   2009-12-30 09:59  

#23  I live in California. Was involved with a new school for kids here which, at one point, I hoped might offer my kids an alternative to the dreadful public schools. But now the project has been taken over by an Asian foundation which seeks to promote "Asian values," including
-- putting 40 kids into a classroom
-- kicking back 10% of the California revenues to the foundation, and squeezing profits out of the operation by paying staff slightly more than min. wage
-- violating CA employment laws, eg intervening in employees' private lives and political activity

I miss Europe. I miss the America that looked to Europe as the ultimate source of the best in our civilization and culture.
Posted by: lex   2009-12-30 09:53  

#22  I don't want to live in an Asian Century.

I don't mind it. I have more in common with people who work hard, study hard, take care of their families and don't endorse every new intellectual fad that comes along than I do with Europe.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-12-30 09:50  

#21  And yes I agree with Lex. Mrs Geller needs an extended trip to Europe.

There's no such thing as the "Islamization" of European culture. It's simply not there.
Posted by: European Conservative   2009-12-30 09:44  

#20  I certainly concur with your "feeble" assessment.

Sorry, I do what I can, with what I have, the internet allows for people to vent off anonymously, just take it as it comes, and not too seriously... it's not like I am responsible for what I do or say, anyway, or should be held responsible for, at least. That's my whole premise.

I plan on hitting the tipjar for the New Year to alleviate the guilt of being able to speak along others, like if I were a real person (I'm not, but I'm mostly harmless, on the bright side).

Note that I don't read much RP, certainly haven't looked after him lately, but I really liked his "the shah always falls" piece eons ago. I don't have anything against him, it's just that he's not my cup of tea (Steyn falls pretty much in the same camp, though he's very entertaining to read and often funny).
Posted by: anonymous5089   2009-12-30 09:44  

#19  "How about a US-EU free trade zone?"

We're working on it. Might be reality in 2020
Posted by: European Conservative   2009-12-30 09:41  

#18  One last dig: I don't care for EUcrats and Gore-style crony capitalism any more than the rest of youse, but really, our transatlantic p*ssfest is a tempest in a p*sspot. You ain't SEEN corruption till you've been to countries like India, China, Indonesia, for that matter Brazil, Russia, Ukraine.

We and the EUros are like a old couple. We quarrel constantly, he-says-she's-a-nag-and-she-says-he's-domineering, but neither of us has ANYTHING in common with the primitive, brutal, authoritarian and thoroughly corrupt and rapacious political economy you find outside the West.

It would behoove us to remember who the real enemies of freedom and individual dignity are.
Posted by: lex   2009-12-30 09:40  

#17  I don't recall him ever saying anything of the sort, and I read it all.

Besoeker, can't point to the very article, but I *did* read it (a couple years+ ago, maybe?), and it turned me off him, was reminded of noting it by having poster the JW article above earlier.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2009-12-30 09:34  

#16  How about a US-EU free trade zone? I don't want to live in an Asian Century. Our Euro in-laws p*ss us off from time to time, and we them, but let's get real: we and they have vastly more in common than either of us will ever have with the Asians or our respective neighbors to the south.

God help us and our children if "Asian values" ever displace western ones from pride of place in the world. If you don't like euro-socialism, just consider the Indian caste system or the bandit capitalism practiced by the Chinese government and military.

Peoples of the north, unite. Nothing to lose but a dim and bleak future.
Posted by: lex   2009-12-30 09:34  

#15  Well done Lex.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-12-30 09:31  

#14  WIth EC on this. The "Eurabia" thesis is crap.

For starters, the vast majority of the muslims who come to Europe quickly become secular, or at most, weakly or rarely observant like Christmas-and-Easter Christians. The riots in France were simply race riots by bored, unemployed, 100% secular punks in the cites [projects]. When the imams told them to cease and desist from their favorite pastime of Grand Torch Auto, the kids told the imams to f--- off.

Second, even if most of the muslims in Europe were actually observant, their numbers aren't anywhere close to the 25% threshold that our own Mexicans have already crossed in the southwestern US. The 2nd- and 3rd-generation muslim immigrants have smaller and smaller family sizes than their immigrant forebears.

Finally, you get the sense the tide is turning for ordinary white (and non-white Christian) Europeans. Many of the Dutch have had it. The Swiss have just made their feelings known, in the minaret referendum. The Brits are starting to recover their ancient love of liberty and are protesting their leaders' embrace of sharia and multiculti idiocy.

As to the Euro-Mediterranean thing, it's nothing more than a trade bloc. All about money. Which, when you get down to it, is all the EU really signifies.
Posted by: lex   2009-12-30 09:27  

#13  I certainly concur with your "feeble" assessment. You may also wish to belay the Ralph Peters drivel. I don't recall him ever saying anything of the sort, and I read it all.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-12-30 09:18  

#12  Pray tell, does any of the gentlemen (and the odd female) reading this would have simply DARED to imagine having HIM as president in 2010? Think about it... 2001 ----> Nov 2008. Dude.

Play your own game, think back to 1992 and Billy Boy just being elected defeating Bush I, would anyone then think that Bush II would be elected in 2000 [and then barely by the hanging chad] or that we'd fact 8+ years of full war whose warning was in the first Trade Center bombing then.

The hair breathe win of Bush and the harsh division of the election outcome should have signaled that the country was indeed deeply divided and that the 'other side' would go to any lengths to manufacture a candidate that would gather power. They didn't care who or what it took, just get power back. It could have been Kerry, but the tradition of not changing leaders during war made the difference. When the opportunity presented itself they could have run just about anyone to include Hillary with their traditional alliance while dancing on the corpse of the Republicans who alienated their own with their rapacious behaviors.
Posted by: Procopius2k on vacation   2009-12-30 09:16  

#11  So Sorry...
Posted by: European Conservative   2009-12-30 09:15  

#10  EC, knock it off! Can't you see I'm trying, with my feeble means, to sound all deep and wise here! Don't you dare inject some rationality here, you're making me look bad by comparison, you're exposing my schtick. How am I supposed to work my self-esteem here? Have some heart.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2009-12-30 09:00  

#9  I'm not being shallow, it's basically all that, right now, everything's, everybody's opinion is hot air.

Just ONE, single, thoughts exercise : set yourself back in late 2001, or early 2002 mindset; now, devote a part of your mighty brain to dwelve into what is known of BHO's background, with all its "colourful" and byzantine bits.

Pray tell, does any of the gentlemen (and the odd female) reading this would have simply DARED to imagine having HIM as president in 2010? Think about it... 2001 ----> Nov 2008. Dude.

Really, think about it, and come back and try to tell EUropeans that they are sick - they (we) are, can't deny it, but, well... so are you, and, believe me, no schadenfreude at all here.

Just understand it's not "you" and "us" against "them", it's "us" (yeah, even the israeli, sorry, G(r)om, but AFAIC, israelis are white europeans, in last analysis) and "them".
Posted by: anonymous5089   2009-12-30 08:57  

#8  "Fifty million North Africans from Muslim countries are to be imported into the EU."

Sorry but that's utter BS
Posted by: European Conservative   2009-12-30 08:52  

#7  I care about Europe - egad, it's where I keep all my stuff! /The Tick mode off

Agree with first sinktrapped commenter is that it's the view from a 'ourist', in some way; I certainly can't predict what's coming next, and then next, and then next,... but talks of "demise" certainly are premature. But SHTF, messy stuff, collapse of Nation-States, etc, etc...? Maybe, probably, I don't know, maybe the scenario will unfold like that, or like this. I'm not being shallow, it's basically all that, right now, everything's, everybody's opinion is hot air.
Wait & See.

As for the prevaling meme expressed say by Pam, or Grumpy G(r)om, why not? 2010 Western Europe has nothing to do with the 1960's one, this one is dead (according to local wingnuts, in no small part through jooooooooooooish influence, which is the ironical exact counterpoint to Grumpy G(r)om's own scapegoatism and victimhood-based bitgotry, and actually has some valid roots, as a good 50% of the post-WWII "destructive left" HAS been jewish, without delving into any imaginary GRand Conspiracy)... but, I just am bothered by premature post-mortem of "Europe", IE white european cultures and white european civilization.
We'll see what happens.

And, please, if push comes to shove, and the effeminated EUros try and fight back, please, please, please, don't lapse into that other "conservative" meme, the "fascistic by nature, racist, narrow-minded, tribal,... Europe-from-which-our-ancestors-once-escaped). I love the USA, at least my own imaginary version of it, but, spare me the Ralph Peters fantasies of the diverse, multicultural, race-blind USA having to rescue the hapless "european" muslims from an upcoming genocide, when the unenlightened EUros revert back to their roots.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2009-12-30 08:48  

#6  The article was linked in a comment yesterday.
Posted by: lotp   2009-12-30 07:30  

#5  See comment #8.
Posted by: ed   2009-12-30 07:24  

#4  As the date line on the article at the link is December 30, I'd consult my neurologist if I were you, Bobby. If I could remember his name.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2009-12-30 06:52  

#3  But ... wasn't this posted yesterday? With a photo of the author? I can't seem to find it.

Maybe it's a sign of early-onset Alzheimer's?
Posted by: Bobby   2009-12-30 06:35  

#2  Yea, well. I'm most concerned with the damage Europe will do before it finally expires.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-12-30 02:55  

#1  Great article ...but politically naive or motivated an American journo trying to explain Europe from a touristic experience smell...a little
middle eastern and Africans north, south and central are hired by companies that the owner is usually a conservative and politically talking,leftist politically are against of non European emigrants
Posted by: elio17   2009-12-30 02:47  

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