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Pelosi may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

2010-03-16

"No one's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain
After laying the groundwork for a decisive vote this week on the Senate's health-care bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested Monday that she might attempt to pass the measure without having members vote on it.
And if Mark Twain were alive today, he wouldn't know where to begin.
Instead, Pelosi (D-Calif.) would rely on a procedural sleight of hand: The House would vote on a more popular package of fixes to the Senate bill; under the House rule for that vote, passage would signify that lawmakers "deem" the health-care bill to be passed.
Cool! Bait and switch!

Posted by:gorb

#15 I moved out of Colorado when the Califonicators came in and started the same crap that had fouled their previous nest. When previously mainstream parts of the state started feeling like The Peoples Republic of Boulder it was time to head out. the scary talk i hear is coming more from the folks i still have contact with in CO. plenty of it out here in GA, but not the same urgency fwiw

Posted by: abu do you love 2010-03-16 23:01

#14 OS Apalachia is lovely this time of year. My powder is dry and there's plenty of it

Posted by: Beavis 2010-03-16 23:00

#13 Frank G, he may be voicing the thoughts of a lot more people than you think; I've heard similar in emails forwarded to me by others and previous mentioned it with disclaimers. I have heard it put this way from a larger number of people than ever before: Soap box has failed, ballot box is failing (with this end run around representative government), so the jury box (SCOTUS striking it down) is the only thing standing between us and the cartridge box if they do pass this monstrosity that changes the fundamental relationship between the governed and the government.

It is important to hear that sort of thing, if for no other reason that as a warning -- as long as there are no direct person threats or calls to overthrow the legal government.

One thing to notice about OP's analysis is that the most vulnerable areas are the urban areas which are liberal strongholds. That means people thinking in that manner may be even less inclined to restrain themselves if push comes to shove.

And that scares the hell out of me. Enough to where I am considering moving out of the suburban west to the areas where I know the hills and the people well, and have a lot of relatives. That isn't the main reason, but it is enough to be at least a factor in risk analysis.

(Colorado has changed, and I no longer feel like its home - and I want to get back to my Blue Ridge to be buried with my ancestors)

Posted by: OldSpook 2010-03-16 22:35

#12 OP - dial it back, k? You have power in votes, power in influence via pressure, but.....

Posted by: Frank G 2010-03-16 22:06

#11 There are three million, 300 thousand, 287 bridges, tunnels, power stations, locks, dams, power pylons, and large culverts in the United States. A force of 2500 people, with the appropriate knowledge and the support of the local populace, can bring any part of the United States - or the entire nation - to its knees. Congress does not have the power or ability to stop it - only the American people. When the "ruling class" pisses off the only group that can actually protect those vulnerable points, they've set themselves up for for defeat. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and all the other lawyers in Washington know jack sh$$ about actually running the infrastructure of this country. I think it's about time they learned just how much the REAL people in this country despise them.

Posted by: Old Patriot 2010-03-16 21:43

#10 Repeat after me, "Medicare." Wildly unpopular on the right when signed and still going strong @ 1000x its maximum projected cost. The only way this will differ is that it will be bigger.

Posted by: AzCat 2010-03-16 18:34

#9 Sure they can, but not after the billions of pork that will kill this nation is spent.

Posted by: 49 Pan 2010-03-16 15:22

#8 Republicans can nullify anything the dhimis do later for a unpopular bill.

In theory yes, in practice ... not so much.

Posted by: AzCat 2010-03-16 14:47

#7 Badgers? we don't need no stinkin badgers!

Posted by: bman 2010-03-16 14:45

#6 Be afraid, be very afraid.

I am afraid, that is why I have been preparing for the eventual (as far as I am concerned) use of option three.

I also pray every night for Pelosi and gang to be devoured by a pack of rabid Badgers. Among other things...

Posted by: Secret Asian Man 2010-03-16 14:40

#5 1. Soapbox,
2. ballot box,
3. cartridge box.

I'm very much afraid that November is the last chance for number 2 to work. If the tyrant wannabe in the WH and his slimy minions are willing to go to these lengths to impose their will. A win in Nov. would give them all the motivation they need to totally rewrite electoral rules and "deem" them passed.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Posted by: Alanc 2010-03-16 10:49

#4 Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. MT

Some things haven't changed much.

Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2010-03-16 10:41

#3 And if Mark Twain were alive today, he wouldn't know where to begin.

He would know.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2010-03-16 10:33

#2 They're adding an entirely new dimension to the term..."Stuck on Stupid."

Barry and Pelosi need a huge infusion of tax dollars over the next few years and this is their plan to make that happen. Healthcare reform is a convenient facade, nothing more. If they can fund the abortion of a few million future recipients along the way and make selected college students beholding to their largesse, so much the better.

Posted by: Besoeker 2010-03-16 07:58

#1 Passing it this way is political suicide, and the Republicans can nullify anything the dhimis do later for a unpopular bill.

Go ahead donks. Make our day.

Posted by: DarthVader 2010-03-16 07:42

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