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| Belmont Club Commenter's Analysis: Diego Garcia Bunker Busters Preparation for Attack on Israel? |
| 2010-03-17 |
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| Posted by:Threagum Chaling9990 |
| #13 Zhang Fei, I agree with Richard Aubrey. "US President Barack Obama harbors anti-Semitism and the American Jews who voted for him are not pro-Israel, Dr. Hagi Ben-Artzi, the outspoken brother-in-law of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, said on Wednesday. In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, Ben-Artzi said it was no coincidence that the 78 percent of American Jews who voted for Obama was roughly the same percentage of Jews in the US who do not give their children a Jewish education." |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2010-03-17 22:14 |
| #12 Among other, RADICAL ISLAM is working hard to destabilize parts parts of CENTRAL-EAST-SOUTH ASIA, + AFRICA ins order to make a US = US-ISRAELI WAR ON IRAN IRRELEVANT SAVE TO INDUCE THE US TO WASTE/EXPEND ITS VOLUNTEER ARMY + RELATED RESOURCES, besides also to control ASIA'S NUKES as complement to YEAR 2012 + IRAN'S ANTICIPATED WEAPONS NUCLEARIZATION. Theres no reason for the US to attack Israel other than to PO the US Mainstream agz their own Govt [civil war]. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2010-03-17 20:33 |
| #11 zhang fei You're an optimist. The jewish block voting is so solidly wired in that they'll give up Israel first. It's not a matter of not knowing what's been going on under the dems. It's a matter of insisting to oneself that, if necessary, even Israel doesn't matter. What matters is the bone-deep identification with dems and liberalism. Nothing supercedes that. |
| Posted by: Richard Aubrey 2010-03-17 19:18 |
| #10 RA: You think that will do it? Former Secretary of State James Baker is alleged to have said "F*** the Jews - they don't vote for us anyway". Obama's attitude appears to be "F*** the Jews - they vote for us anyway". An Obama attack on Israel would stretch the quasi-religious devotion of American Jews for the Democratic Party beyond the breaking point. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2010-03-17 16:12 |
| #9 zhang fei You think that will do it? |
| Posted by: Richard Aubrey 2010-03-17 15:27 |
| #8 Is all this nuts? An insane theory? Probably and hopefully so. It is unlikely to happen. Jews currently block vote for Democrats. If Obama attacked Israel, Jews would block vote for the GOP. They would also stop donating to the Democrats. In combination, this would result in multi-decade minority status in Federal politics for the Democratic Party. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2010-03-17 15:15 |
| #7 Due to its complex legal status, Diego Garcia is probably as close to "neutral territory" as one can get in the real world. Hypothetical attacks from bases on Cyprus, in the UK or in Germany would be made from EU territory. European governments, especially Germany's government would not have any diplomatic cover. They could not vote "present." This buildup (and the leak) is an ostentatious display of military capability by the US. Given the simultaneous diplomatic hostility towards Israel (nonnegotiable demands) and the diplomatic self-abasement vis a vis Israel's foes this is more likely to put pressure on Israel than on other parties. Is all this nuts? An insane theory? Probably and hopefully so. However, had I been given an accurate prediction of future political events e.g. back in 2007, I would have dismissed it as pure nonsense as well. |
| Posted by: Threagum Chaling9990 2010-03-17 14:44 |
| #6 As bunker busters go--the huge kind recently in the news--these are pretty small. The big, reinforced facilities we think Iran is using won't be bothered by direct hits. However. The facilities have to have doorways, elevator shafts, ventilation system outlets. For an analogy, tanks are discussed sometimes in terms of their armor. So and so much on the bow, so and so much on the gun mantle, etc. The Tiger tank was reputed to have seven inches of armor on the bow. It also had a bow machine gun. Weak spot. You could hit it, if you were lucky. Mostly, you weren't. Then. Current accuracy is considerably better. |
| Posted by: Richard Aubrey 2010-03-17 11:47 |
| #5 As phil_b points out, geography sez the writer's full of fecal matter. Much better to use Okinawa. |
| Posted by: Fred 2010-03-17 11:25 |
| #4 Bunker buster stocks were drawn down to nearly zero by the attack on Iraq in 2003. I see this as merely refilling the arsenal. |
| Posted by: Chuck Simmins 2010-03-17 10:19 |
| #3 The geographically challenged seem not to understand that Diego Garcia is more than 5000 Ks from Israel. CONUS is only 2000 Ks further and Germany and the UK are one hell of a lot closer. Not to mention the UKs Cyprus airbases which are 20 minutes flying time from Israel and have US personel just hanging around. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2010-03-17 10:07 |
| #2 Thanks for wasting my time. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2010-03-17 09:52 |
| #1 There is no way in pluperfect hell that a contingency plan for an Israeli attack would not be compromised all to heck by USAF officers and personnel, who are extremely top heavy with pro-Israel Evangelical Christians. Iran, on the other hand... |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2010-03-17 09:35 |