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Home Front: Politix
Legal Challenge if Dems Pass Health-Care Without Actually Voting on It
2010-03-18
Conservative talk-radio host and attorney Mark Levin said he plans to file an immediate lawsuit if House Democratic leaders try to utilize a little-known maneuver under House rules to pass the health-care bill without actually having to vote on it.

"I cannot predict if we would win or lose -- this is not as simple as some would have you believe -- but I want to put the marker down right now and make it clear to members of the House of Representatives who think the quickest way to pass this is to adopt a rule that assumes that they voted on an underlying bill when they didn't -- that is going to be challenged if they do it," Levin said on his nationally syndicated radio show Tuesday evening.
Posted by:Fred

#11  if they want open revolt, they're going about it the right way
Posted by: Frank G   2010-03-18 21:26  

#10  Obama won't rule out using "Slaughter" on immigration, other Bills.
Posted by: Snash Sforza6070   2010-03-18 20:57  

#9  
Elmaiger Hatfield7630, AoS wasn't expressing a state of denial. He was reminding Alanc and all of our esteemed commenters of the rules at this site.

I am reinforcing that message since you seem to have missed it.

Rantburg will not tolerate calls for violent actions against the government or against individual Americans. Period.

That rule does not say one blessed thing about the opinions of the moderators and the owner of this site. It does say that Fred maintains this site mostly at his own expense, along with donations, and certainly with a great deal of work. If you want to threaten armed revolution, do it at a site where you or someone else is willing to bear the legal liability and scrutiny that such language brings.

I do hope this is clear. If not, we'll repeat it more forceably. Emotions are running high about what's going on in Washington right now, my own included. That does not excuse and will not be used as an excuse to set aside the most basic rule at this site.
Posted by: lotp   2010-03-18 19:35  

#8  Let's not get too frisky along these lines, 'k? Public expression of such thoughts isn't useful right now and it could land people in trouble. AoS

I really don't have a problem with imposing the law by force. The Obama Fox News interview revealed that the "Slaughter" provision, which critics say violates the Constitution. So Obama has made a public statement that the Constitution which has been the foundation that all laws have been built on will not be followed by his lawless regime. Get out of your state of denial because this massive take over of 1/6th of the US ecomy from within is the first strategic move against our entire set of liberties.
Posted by: Elmaiger Hatfield7630   2010-03-18 18:46  

#7  1) Soapbox - we're seeing the Tea Parties now

2) Ballot box - This November

3) Cartridge box - When the do this $4it anyway. (see EPA imposing cap & trade by presidential decree)

They have the Czars and bureaucrats in place to impose anything they want on us. They may have to be stopped by force if November doesn't do it.
Let's not get too frisky along these lines, 'k? Public expression of such thoughts isn't useful right now and it could land people in trouble. AoS
Posted by: Alanc   2010-03-18 15:22  

#6  And meanwhile the existing 'system' is breaking down financially. In Washington State, effective April 16, Walgreens drugstores won't take any new Medicaid patients, saying that filling their prescriptions is a money-losing proposition
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2010-03-18 15:20  

#5  #4 "John Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!"
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2010-03-18 11:32  

#4  My question would be: if it is passed then challenged in court will we still be paying the additional taxes on it (I'm just sure this will be placed right there next to ss, mc, futa, et al everyone's paycheck), secondly if passed then struck down we will be getting our money back, right?

I will gladly find the total paycheck withholding I would lose over the next 4 years and find a way to donate that amount to a legitimate legal challenge.

Second, I am going to get ahold of my state rep and senator today and urge them to follow Virginia.

Third, if you are in an area of waver, make some noise and give your rep cover (or reason) to vote no.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2010-03-18 11:20  

#3  This is also a serious precedent. If you can use this maneuver to pass HC Takeover, then what legislation would not be eligible for this underhanded maneuver?

This is too important not to vote on. I want to see if I need to vote my rep out, and Nancy knows it. What she doesn't know is that I will vote my bum rep out if I have even the slightest suspicion that they may have voted the wrong way for something major that I don't like.
Posted by: gorb   2010-03-18 11:04  

#2  ..and a vehicle by which the states can challenge any 'mandate' in the package.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-03-18 08:46  

#1  and I doubt that the funds needed to prosecute this lawsuit will be an issue!
Posted by: Sherry   2010-03-18 00:20  

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